Nuclear disasters

[Kenzel]

First Japan and now this... http://hawaiinewsdaily.com/2011/06/nebr ... -disaster/ Um..is anybody else starting to get a little worried about radiation dumping out of these plants? I mean, just the radiation from Chernobyl spread all over the world. End times anybody?

[B. W.]

First Japan and now this... http://hawaiinewsdaily.com/2011/06/nebr ... -disaster/ Um..is anybody else starting to get a little worried about radiation dumping out of these plants? I mean, just the radiation from Chernobyl spread all over the world. End times anybody?

Look at this and all they can talk about is a flasher Politian resigning or not…

Something is wrong with the news media…

http://www.businessinsider.com/faa-clos ... ant-2011-6

http://www.action3news.com/story/149189 ... oun-rumors
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[Kenzel]

Exactly! These disasters are going on and getting worse and all these people are talking about is that Wiener guy!

[Murray]

No, not end times,

Let me put this in perspective for you, more people have died from installing wind mills than from nuclear power plant radiation.

This was caused by using outdated reactors ,only one of which is still active in the us may I add, and they failed to furfill the required matenince on them, and also do you think it was wise to build a nuclear power plant on an earth quake zone? Chenobyl was due to bad design, thats it.

And sadly social scientists have never read a nuclear health physics book, babys cannot be born with defect due to radation as the amount of radiation to cause these defects would have kill the mother, humans cannot pass down gene mutation as the radation required to affect genetic genes is always fatal and any hippie who tells you otherwise is full of crap, hand them a nuclear health book.

[Kenzel]

No, not end times,

Let me put this in perspective for you, more people have died from installing wind mills than from nuclear power plant radiation.

This was caused by using outdated reactors ,only one of which is still active in the us may I add, and they failed to furfill the required matenince on them, and also do you think it was wise to build a nuclear power plant on an earth quake zone? Chenobyl was due to bad design, thats it.

And sadly social scientists have never read a nuclear health physics book, babys cannot be born with defect due to radation as the amount of radiation to cause these defects would have kill the mother, humans cannot pass down gene mutation as the radation required to affect genetic genes is always fatal and any hippie who tells you otherwise is full of crap, hand them a nuclear health book.

I know it's probably not the end of the world (yet ), but it is a little bit of a coincidence how a bunch of nuclear reactors are either at high risk or are already going through meltdown. It's also a little bit scary that (from what I've heard) so far, nobody seems to know how to solve the problem.

And even if humans can't pass down gene mutation, there is still more to be concerned about (cancer and whatnot..) The half-life of some of these radioactive materials are from thousands to millions of years, right? That's not very reassuring..

[Legatus]

Soooo, you think dangerous radiation is leaking out of these plants?? Well, if you call THAT dangerous radiation, check this quote out:
Dear news media:

Remember back in the '50s and early '60s, when we set off something like 900 atomic bombs in Nevada? And how we just let the fallout blow wherever and it landed all over the eastern US? And how it wiped out life as we know it and all that was left from Colorado to the Atlantic were six-legged rats battling two-headed cockroaches in the glowing ruins?

Yeah. Exactly. So shut up with the panic already.

If this were really "dangerous levels of radiation", you would already be dead back in the 50's and 60's (there were aboveground and even upper atmosphere nuke tests all over the world done by a number of countries). You are not dead, therewfor even nuclear bomb tests are safe, much less small short lived leaks.

I heard of a guy who was very dissapointed that he did not get to join the nuclear tailgate party to witness the first A-bomb test (they liked to gather all through the 50/s and 60's for these for all the tests right in Vegas), the reason, he had radiation poisoning at the time. He died...about 7 years ago, at age 86.

Number of people who died in the "nuclear disaster" in Japan, in fact, number of people who were even seriously injured, oh heck, injured at all by any radiation, STILL ZERO. Number of people killed by non nuclear means, which therefore does not count as being worth mentioning, at least 25,000. And meanwhile the press was harping on the "nuclear disaster" while hundreds of thousands at the very least were homeless in winter, without food or water or shelter, some injured, all greiving, all ignored. After, all, if it ain't nuclear, it ain't news, right?

The "nuclear disaster" in Japan, what was it really? A 30 years old plant was hit by a very very major earthquake, result, it shut down automatically just as it was designed to do, no radiation leak. Then, a 30 foot tsunami washed over its 18 ft wall (other plants had a higher wall) and shut off the cooling. Even if we had then just left it to melt, all that would have happened is an expensive cleanup, all the radioactive stuff would be trapped in the extremely thick containment vessel. The "explosions" were because of the new radioactivity paranoia, where some slightly radioactive gas was given off (with a half life of hours at most, and thus harmless by the time it might get to anyone, even if somehow it could gather itself together and attack someone, rather than harmlessly floating off and dispersing). because of the unreasoning paranoia that says that any radiation is bad (which if true would result in the above two headed cockroaches scenerio), even though actual scientific tests show that small amounts of radiation are not only completly harmless, but may actually be beneficial (reduces cancer chance), because of that paranoia, they tried to keep the small and short term radioactive hydrogen gass trapped in the outbuilding (merely a thin shell over the real containment vessel), and since it was hydrogen after all, it exploded (perfectly normal chemichal fire explosion). The other radtiation leakage (small, harmless) was from stored feul. One might ask why they store feul, when we could saftly bury it (after all, we dug it up, did it kill us before we dug it up?) by any of various means (seal it it big glass blocks and sink it into the sea and it simply cannot ever get out), no one wants it even hundreds of mile away from them sealed way underground in steel containers. Thus, they cannot get rid of it and it sits at nuclear power plants in steel contaners, although why it should I don't know, the Canadians have figured out how to make a power plant that can use that heat of spent nuclear feul to power it, even being able to use unprocessed ore, we could use this stuff.

In short, there WAS NO NUCLEAR DISASTER IN JAPAN, it is all a complete fabrication of the news media, one so bad that really they should be charged with a felony, actually, mutiple felonies. Maybe "reckless endangerment", since their anti nuke paranoia is the reason the spent feul was even out there in the first place, and since in Germany eventually they may freeze to death in the dark since they shut down 7 nuclear plants of the same type there, apperenlty they are woried about that huge earthquake AND TSUNAMI (it took BOTH to even make such small harmless problem as happened at only ONE of very many nuke plants in Japan) that is any day going to roll over central Germany. Any day...

Even Chernobyl, the worst possible nuclear disaster ever, which can only happen with old style Soviet plants (no other country has ever been so stupid as to build any like it, in fact, the original American designers flat out refused to even designed one that style) should have whiped out Europe if the nuclear panic guys were really right (as should all those above ground tests in the old days and then some). However, the only problems even there were either very local (in the plant iself), or babies drinking radioactive iodine milk, and even that was because of ignorance, and even that can be prevented with medicine). Three Mile Island was comepletly harmless, the radioactivity released, in the biggest possible problem one could have at an American nuke plant, was so small that it was about equivilent to what you would get by just doing what you do now for one month (you want to worry about a nuclear source, worry about the sun). And do we even bother to mention while we are shutting down safe cheap nuclear power plants that one of the few old Chernobyle syle reactors is 90 miles from the US mainland in Cuba, no, of course not, Cuba is socialist, and therefore "good", one is not allowed to mention it.

In short, these "nuclear disasters" you keep reading about are nothing more than flat out, bald faced lies. Proof? Live anywhere from Colorado to the eastern seaboard? See any six legged rats, what about two headed cockroaches? No, then stop with the panic already.

[Canuckster1127]

There's no question that there are prophets of doom and gloom who will overstate or overestimate the impact of things for the purpose of political leverage or just plain misguided judgement.

That's no justification either to go the opposite direction and render any such threats as harmless or non-existent. The nuclear situation in Japan hasn't risen to the level of Chernobyl and has only in places flirted with the level of Three Mile Island. The thing is, proper emergency handling of these situations requires a very highly structured response and also a worst case scenario preparation in advance and in the midst. This includes evacuations. It also requires a recognition that the health threats are long term and even relatively low levels of radiation over a sustained period of time can have deleterious effects, particularly upon food supplies and children.

It's one thing to take that view in terms of the on the ground management of such a situation. It's another to elevate it and use it politically. The trick is to not over-react in either direction and pretend that no threat exists.

[Gman]

First Japan and now this... http://hawaiinewsdaily.com/2011/06/nebr ... -disaster/ Um..is anybody else starting to get a little worried about radiation dumping out of these plants? I mean, just the radiation from Chernobyl spread all over the world. End times anybody?

I wouldn't exactly say that this is a sign of the end times nor would I deny it either.. As a watchman I believe we are to keep these things in check.. We should consider all things but not over react as well. I would say however there are markers that we are approaching the end times. Am I 100 percent sure? Nope.