Evidence for God from Science

Please watch this beautiful presentation on why Israel cannot give up its pre 67 borders. I was just in Netanya and it is a large city that could easily be bombarded by these terrorist organizations.

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2hZ6SlSqq0

Gman it's a touchy and controversial subject, but do you believe that faith in God drives an educated person to choose a particular political denomination, and if so, which denomination would that be? I only ask because I have heard all too many times (including in my church) that the two are unrelated and I am seriously starting to disagree.

Tevko wrote:Gman it's a touchy and controversial subject, but do you believe that faith in God drives an educated person to choose a particular political denomination, and if so, which denomination would that be? I only ask because I have heard all too many times (including in my church) that the two are unrelated and I am seriously starting to disagree.

Well if our intellect follows our spirit, which I hope it does, I would think that a person's education would help them choose a particular denomination. That however is a tricky one. My personal belief is that any denomination that follows Christ is of God, which denomination that is hard to put a finger on. Many times have I've been to a denomination where I see certain truths being practiced. My personal belief is that the body of Christ has many different body parts. Some denominations are feet, some are hands, others can be hearts, and others maybe an elbow.

Let God be your guide where you fit.. I'm in two churches right now. A non-denominational church and a messianic Jew church but that could change.

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If we make isreal go back to 67' borders we should give mexico back arizona, texas, new mexico, california, nevada, and colorado because we "stole" them from mexico and giving them back would appease mexico riggghtttt?

Its amazing obama can honestly do this to isreal, our only TRUE ally in the middle east. I mean this man wants them to give land to a nation that is currently in the middle of a civil war (syria); what good is that? you are appeasing a dictator who will be gone in less than a year.

I know this a a very large statment to say but I believe that this man has no spine and loves to appease the wrong people. Hell, he should be appeasing isreal not syria and jordon.

Murray wrote:If we make isreal go back to 67' borders we should give mexico back arizona, texas, new mexico, california, nevada, and colorado because we "stole" them from mexico and giving them back would appease mexico riggghtttt?

Its amazing obama can honestly do this to isreal, our only TRUE ally in the middle east. I mean this man wants them to give land to a nation that is currently in the middle of a civil war (syria); what good is that? you are appeasing a dictator who will be gone in less than a year.

Absolutely Murray... Obama has REALLY lost it on this one. And I was dumb enough to vote for him last election. Basically it boils down to this. If anyone supports Israel going back to it's 67 borders you are actually supporting TERRORISTS. Period.. Also, not all Arabs who live in Israel now support this move either. Where is their voice?? It's these fanatical extremists who live in Syria and Lebanon who only want this to happen. Why our administration is supporting this move I have no idea.

Murray wrote:I know this a a very large statment to say but I believe that this man has no spine and loves to appease the wrong people. Hell, he should be appeasing isreal not syria and jordon.

Obama is confused or has not studied the issue in the middle east yet. That is very apparent. Frankly a five year old could understand what is going on there.

As for Christians, I believe we should be very involved in Israeli issues. Not only do we need stability there in the middle east, but the Jewish holy sites there are also our holy sites too. I was just there and the Arabs there prevented us from going to many holy sites. In fact, given the opportunity they would probably dismantle them.