Christian Genocide

[Murray]

While atheist love to live in their delusion that Hitler was catholic (even though he many Catholics in concentration camps, you just don’t hear about it), very rarely do you hear them deny that Stalin was an atheist. Now what Stalin did during and before and after WWII is truly amazing. When Stalin first took power, one of his first decrees was to destroy any united church, this was because, following the principles on Lenin, that religion posed an upright threat to any totalitarian regime because it would mean people would have a loyalty to a power higher than the dictator himself.

Stalin, just as Hitler did with synagogues, burned churches and executed the priests on the spot. Stalin’s police force at the time had the right to investigate any claims that a particular family was practicing Judaism or Christianity, if found out to be a true claim, all residents of the house hold were executed or "disappeared". This, however, did not end with Stalin, up until 1990; Russia persecuted Christians due to fear of unitization under a god. Sadly unlike the Germans, the Russians did not document their murders as extensively, but we do however have the lists of a few of the murdered and the reasons for execution.
This is truly astonishing, 3/4 execution in the Soviet Union were due to religion.

After reading this, you really must sit back and think about how much they feared god, they feared him enough to kill millions of men women and children just to annilate any trace of god. It’s very sad, but very true. What is even sadder is many people do not know about his, we read about the horrible genocide of the Jews in our history books, but never the extensive murder of Christians in soviet Russia.

I believe we need to let these claims become more widely known, people must realize that militant atheists, if had their way, would love to destroy all traces of our church and our god, its very dangerous thing but it is happening all over our country. Look at California; circumcising is illegal in some parts now!!! There is absolutely no reason for this, circumcision even promotes better health! This is just an outright attack on Judaism and Christianity. No god in schools, no god in public, no god no god no god, where does it stop. Soviet Russia should be remembered as what happens when atheist run the show, we should never forget how a man with no sense of a higher power can utterly destroy a section of the world.

[PaulSacramento]

People without faith are easily controlled.
Destroy a person's faith and you have destroyed them.
Why?
Faith begets Hope and with Hope, all is possible and tyranny has no power.

[Murray]

^
Right on the mark.

[dorkmaster]

As the OP mentioned, the atheist is quick to try and tell you that Hitler was a Christian. Now, I have always been fascinated by history, especially the early to mid 20th century, and I have read countless books and articles on Hitler, Stalin, and Tojo. I think I have a little bit of authority on this matter, and also as the OP mentioned, there were Christians in concentration camps, and Hitler had planned on beginning his extermination of Christianity after winning the war. Thank God, he didn't. Anyway, one atheist tried to tell me that hitler was a Christian which I of course, denied. So I said, although this is actually a logical fallacy but his only argument was one also so I used it, well, by your logic atheism is bad because Stalin was an atheist. He said Stalin doesn't count because he was crazy... Cam anyone tell me what's wrong with that? lol. I resolved not to debate him anymore, and I'm sure you understand why. Sorry I rambled a little

[Murray]

ooo my athiest looooovvvveeee to do this.

O'reilly said in response to dawkins saying the religon causes wars, "what about Hitler and Stalin?", dawkins the replied "just because he was atheist does not mean it was because of atheism". And then he turned around and started talking about how religion was the cause of all wars again.

Hmm.. athiesm was the cause of the assination of arch duke ferdinand which started world war I, which led to world war II, so then wouldnt that mean athiesm started the worlds 2 largest wars


Maybe athiesm causes short term memory loss

[neo-x]

atheism is stupidity and sugar coated idiocity.

Atheism is a crutch for those who cannot bear the reality of God.

Tom Stoppard

The atheist can’t find God for the same reason that a thief can’t find a policeman.

Author Unknown

Someone once said that if you sat a million monkeys at a million typewriters for a million years, one of them would eventually type out all of Hamlet by chance. But when we find the text of Hamlet, we don’t wonder whether it came from chance and monkeys. Why then does the atheist use that incredibly improbable explanation for the universe? Clearly, because it is his only chance of remaining an atheist. At this point we need a psychological explanation of the atheist rather than a logical explanation of the universe.

Peter Kreeft

Maybe athiesm causes short term memory loss

Along with mental impairment

[Echoside]

IDK what kind of atheists you hang out with, very rarely do I meet anyone crazy enough to want to identify with stalin or claim HItler was a devout christian. I feel like the ad hominems from both sides in these kinds of issues are equally foolish.

[Murray]

hmm.... Where do I say this is how atheist behave?? Please quote me if you find where I did.

I believe I wrote more about the dangers of eliminating god from everything as modern atheist want, Soviet Russia is a prime example of a "perfect" atheist state where people could only worship in extreme secrecy.

Lets look at it this way, when we were primarily a Christian nation before the 20th century we had under 1,000 abortions yearly, extremely low pre-marital sex rate, murder rates lower than 70% then what they are today, and an overall lower crime rate.

Now look at soviet Russia, abortions were common as 1) per-marital sex was common, thus causing high pregnancy rates, soviet Russia controlled birth rates so im sure you can guess on the amount of abortions, Look how many Christians the atheists killed to insure that god never regained a place in their country, look at their poverty rate (no Christian charities or churches to help), the list goes on and on.

No atheists are not all like Stalin, but It takes 1 atheist leader (like Stalin) to support the rise of atheism, what happens when a militant religion like Islam or atheism takes hold?, people die because they must purge other belief systems. The reason Christianity tolerates others is because of our strict and upright moral code, nowhere in the bible does it say to hate, kill (new testament at least), or discriminate against those different from us. Atheist believe religion is a terrible cancer, what do you do to a cancer may I ask? They constantly say religion and go need to go away, the same exact thing as Stalin……

[dorkmaster]

I'm not sure of your statistics there Murray, but I guess the point of this is to say that atheism is not based on any morality, just the atheist's own well-being. And that, is not a good thing, obviously.

[Murray]

feel free to do some research....

No stats can be acturate by the way, unlike the germans whch neatly documented every killing of every person in every camp, the soviets killed at random when ever they wanted and left the bodys on the street or where they killed the person, or just threw em in a mass grave, they could care less about documentation.

I am however 100% certain in the soviet regime, more people were killed than the holocaust you just do not hear about it and that is what drives me insane.

[narnia4]

I believe there's an article on this website and its pretty well documented overall that no more than 7% of all wars have been because of religion... and I'd imagine that a good number of those wars were fought with religion as an excuse rather than the actual reason. America has fought one war that qualifies as a "religious war", and that's the "war on terror". I won't argue that some religions are evil, but anybody who actually studies Christianity knows that war isn't exactly smiled upon.

So when atheists say that "most wars are caused by religion", honestly they're just talking out of something or other that I won't name. Absolutely no truth to it, and yet they proudly announce it wherever they go. So much for "rational thought" and "reason", just catch phrases and superficial like so much else of atheism. I wish Dawkins had the guts to debate somebody who has done research and knows what he's talking about, a good philosopher would easily mop the floor with Dawkins.

[Murray]

Dawkins would start to sweat after 5 minutes of intense debate and then would just start yelling "you believe in a flying spahgetti monster and fairy tales because your scared of the dark".

Dawkins is a sad little fella, so much anger in him.

[neo-x]

Almost all atheists have a hatred towards religion. It is simple a refusal, i can bet you, if ever we prove there is a God, the hard headed atheist won't accept that still because his problem is not that he thinks there can be no God but that he doesn't want a God there to be at all. He just doesn't want the universe to be created like it, it is a rebellion and you can see it easily.

[neo-x]

Atheists alone killed more poeple in the last century...

An excerpt from the Irrational Atheist by Vox Day, Pg: 240-242, Chapter Red Hand of Atheism.

there have been twenty-eight countries in world history that can be confirmed to have been ruled by regimes with avowed atheists at the
helm, beginning with the First French Republic and ending with the four atheist regimes currently extant: the People’s Republic of China,
the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea, the Lao People’s Democratic Republic, and the Socialist Republic of Vietnam. These twenty-
eight historical regimes have been ruled by eighty-nine atheists, of whom more than half have engaged in democidal15 acts of the sort
committed by Stalin and Mao and are known to have murdered at least 20,000 of their own citizens.

The total body count for the ninety years between 1917 and 2007 is approximately 148 million dead at the bloody hands of fifty-two
atheists, three times more than all the human beings killed by war, civil war, and individual crime in the entire twentieth century combined.
The historical record of collective atheism is thus 182,716 times worse on an annual basis than Christianity’s worst and most
infamous misdeed, the Spanish Inquisition. It is not only Stalin and Mao who were so murderously inclined, they were merely the worst
of the whole Hell-bound lot. For every Pol Pot whose infamous name is still spoken with horror today, there was a Mengistu, a Bierut, and
a Choibalsan, godless men whose names are now forgotten everywhere...

Is a 58 percent chance that an atheist leader will murder a noticeable percentage of the population over which he rules sufficient evidence
that atheism does, in fact, provide a systematic influence to do bad things? If that is not deemed to be conclusive, how about the fact
that the average atheist crime against humanity is 18.3 million percent worse than the very worst depredation committed by Christians,
even though atheists have had less than one-twentieth the number of opportunities with which to commit them. If one considers the statistically
significant size of the historical atheist set and contrasts it with the fact that not one in a thousand religious leaders have committed
similarly large-scale atrocities, it is impossible to conclude otherwise, even if we do not yet understand exactly why this should be the case.

Once might be an accident, even twice could be coincidence, but fifty-two incidents in ninety years reeks of causation!

[Murray]

good article