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David and Johnathan in Samuel
Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 7:20 pm
by Jonouchi Katsuya
Opinions?
Just platonic? Or is it romantic?
It seriously made me cry the first time I read it... the beauty of their relationship whatever level it may be at... it still had some of the most beautiful quotes.
Re: David and Johnathan in Samuel
Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 8:39 am
by SnowDrops
Jonouchi Katsuya wrote:Opinions?
Just platonic? Or is it romantic?
It seriously made me cry the first time I read it... the beauty of their relationship whatever level it may be at... it still had some of the most beautiful quotes.
Nope, they were friends, as we can see by this description: "better than the love of woman" which seems to say "better than romantic love". Also, there are no references to them being in love. Just that their relationship was very strong.
Re: David and Johnathan in Samuel
Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 5:31 am
by Jonouchi Katsuya
SnowDrops wrote:Jonouchi Katsuya wrote:Opinions?
Just platonic? Or is it romantic?
It seriously made me cry the first time I read it... the beauty of their relationship whatever level it may be at... it still had some of the most beautiful quotes.
Nope, they were friends, as we can see by this description: "better than the love of woman" which seems to say "better than romantic love". Also, there are no references to them being in love. Just that their relationship was very strong.
Other people interpret it differently, but that shouldn't surprise you.
Thank you for your opinion on this matter.
Re: David and Johnathan in Samuel
Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 9:25 pm
by zoegirl
Given the nature of Song of Solomon, it seems the God is quite willing to be explicit in sexual love and approving of the sexual love between a man and wife.
I think we need to be careful to
1) read into the text, especially with modern views
2) look into the text what we perhaps want it to mean.
The text only specifies friendship and the closeness of the relationship, it doesn't indicate whatsoever a physical nature to the relationship. Ho unfortunate that this is deemed potentially risque, I think it is valuable to see the friendships that can take place without genders. Ruth and Naomi, Jonathon and David, friendships are meant to encourage, support, and show great intimacy. But unfortunately intimacy is equated with sexual relationships.
Re: David and Johnathan in Samuel
Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2011 6:36 am
by Philip
Well, let's see, scripture tells us that David had eight wives and (at least) ten concubines. That sounds pretty heterosexual to me!