Evidence for God from Science

doesn't illuminati basically prove that God exists, since they worship satan?

and hey guys, I'm new here. I haven't been a christian for too long, I just changed from islam. I'm 15 years old, so hello!

Hi and welcome to the board.

It will be great to hear your testimony one day about how you converted from Islam to Christianity but as for your question I will leave more learned people to answer it.

God bless

Silvertusk.

mostefasheikhi wrote:doesn't illuminati basically prove that God exists, since they worship satan?

Where on earth did you get this idea? As far as i'm aware the illuminati were an underground society of freethinkers/scholars of their time, of course speculated further as freemasons/new world order/controlling governments/etc.

It was a "secular" style group if memory serves, if they didn't worship God i'm sure satan is even further unlikely. If you have a source that says otherwise, I'd love to read it.

You can believe in a group of people without endorsing their beliefs. You can believe in atheists and still remain a theist. Believing that the Illuminati, or anyone else, worships a deity doesn't mean you must believe in that deity, or devil.

Not to be treated as a 'source' but the Illuminatus Trilogy and the works of David Icke have had some influence on the image of the Illiminati over the past 30 years or so. I believe David Icke has described the illuminati as shape shifting other dimensional lizards, or was it reptiles?, who feed upon hate. Robert Wilson added quite a bit of violence, sex, drugs and magic to the mix.

Proinsias wrote: Not to be treated as a 'source' but the Illuminatus Trilogy and the works of David Icke have had some influence on the image of the Illiminati over the past 30 years or so. I believe David Icke has described the illuminati as shape shifting other dimensional lizards, or was it reptiles?, who feed upon hate. Robert Wilson added quite a bit of violence, sex, drugs and magic to the mix.

Oh, is that where all that reptilian stuff comes from? I've seen some videos on youtube where people claim that you can see those being filmed "transforming." From a homemade video of a pretty Hispanic woman to CNN videos of former president Bush himself- the shape shifting reptiles are apparently all around us!

Personally, I thought the videos I've seen to be absurd and nothing more than artifacts manifesting on the bad quality recordings... but I suppose it's entertaining nonetheless.

Some people really are just idiots for lack of a better word....


If people want to make crap about people and "evil government corperations" out to get them , go ahead, look like a dumb ---- I could really care less

Only people that I really want to hit (yes hit) are those 9/11 dummys. Just beyond the realm of offencive to people who died, I wish I could send them to niger for a weekend and see how fast they some squirming back here singing how wonderfull our government is.

mostefasheikhi wrote:doesn't illuminati basically prove that God exists, since they worship satan?

and hey guys, I'm new here. I haven't been a christian for too long, I just changed from islam. I'm 15 years old, so hello!

Yar, i believe in thier existance, after all the name illuminati derives from the word illuminate.... to illuminate- to bring light. Who was the lightbringer? Lucifer -_- They do worship him, im convinced of it if you want me to speak more about this subject please message back, i happen to be very knowledgable on it.

you believe there is a cult of devil worshipers? I'm sorry but I see no logic in that. If you believed in the devil why would you worship him instead of god? I mean your saying I'm going to hell and I know it by being a theistic satanist. You really gain nothing out of worshiping Satan, I mean maybe you get something in this life but you must be aware that you have a 100% chance of hell if you do.

Murray wrote:you believe there is a cult of devil worshipers? I'm sorry but I see no logic in that. If you believed in the devil why would you worship him instead of god? I mean your saying I'm going to hell and I know it by being a theistic satanist. You really gain nothing out of worshiping Satan, I mean maybe you get something in this life but you must be aware that you have a 100% chance of hell if you do.

It's a little more subtle than that. More a rejection of the idea that God+Heaven=Good and Devil+Hell=Bad. More here

SaidHarbieh wrote:

mostefasheikhi wrote:doesn't illuminati basically prove that God exists, since they worship satan?

and hey guys, I'm new here. I haven't been a christian for too long, I just changed from islam. I'm 15 years old, so hello!

Yar, i believe in thier existance, after all the name illuminati derives from the word illuminate.... to illuminate- to bring light. Who was the lightbringer? Lucifer -_- They do worship him, im convinced of it if you want me to speak more about this subject please message back, i happen to be very knowledgable on it.

I agree, Said. They may not admit to worshiping Satan, but that doesn't mean they don't. Lucifer literally means light-bearer.
2 Corinthians 11:14

Silvertusk wrote:Hi and welcome to the board.

It will be great to hear your testimony one day about how you converted from Islam to Christianity but as for your question I will leave more learned people to answer it.

God bless

Silvertusk.

I'd also love to hear your testimony as well.