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My thoughts. Death matter.

Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 10:20 am
by Dallas
Just wanted to get this out here. I have came to a conclusion that makes since in my books, and hopefully your's.

If we as Christians, followers of Christ, and die to find out there is no God then no sweat. As for Atheist, If they die living as if there is no God, and die to find out there is a God, Then there is a lot heading their way.

It makes me sad, How many people are leaving God for science when basically Science orginated from Religion.


Thank you and have a Nice thanksgiving,


Dallas.

Re: My thoughts. Death matter.

Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 2:26 pm
by Danieltwotwenty
Yes it is sad indeed, so many lost souls. :shakehead:

Happy thanksgiving to you too. y\:D/

Daniel

Re: My thoughts. Death matter.

Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 3:09 pm
by StMonicaGuideMe
It's true, though if you ever said that to an atheist, you'll be ridiculed endlessly for being "so naive" as to suggest anything as rational as Pascal's Wager.

Re: My thoughts. Death matter.

Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 12:29 am
by neo-x
Then there is a lot heading their way.
:evilnod:

Re: My thoughts. Death matter.

Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 12:31 am
by neo-x
It's true, though if you ever said that to an atheist
Typical reaction :lalala: :lalala: :lalala: :lalala: :crazymad: :crazymad: :crazymad: :crazymad: :soap: :soap: :soap:

Re: My thoughts. Death matter.

Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 7:11 am
by StMonicaGuideMe
neo-x wrote:
It's true, though if you ever said that to an atheist
Typical reaction :lalala: :lalala: :lalala: :lalala: :crazymad: :crazymad: :crazymad: :crazymad: :soap: :soap: :soap:


:amen: :srofl: :slol: :srofl: :slol: :srofl: :slol: Ahahaha, so true. I was accused of "putting fingers in my ears" and I thought " :pound: OH THE HYPOCRISY!"

Re: My thoughts. Death matter.

Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 8:16 am
by Canuckster1127
This is also known as "Pascal's Wager."

Re: My thoughts. Death matter.

Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 8:35 am
by narnia4
You know, if you take the general idea of Pascal's Wager as a guideline, its very hard to escape the logic of it.

A typical atheist response will be something about devotion to science, honesty, or even "truth". My response usually is that you don't have to pretend to believe in something, but rather give theism and Christianity specifically every opportunity and try to understand it and actively seek God. So many atheists seem to be emotionally invested in atheism, its not uncommon at all to hear some say (and honestly I think most think it as well) "if there was a God I wouldn't serve him" or "I don't want there to be a God".

But for Pascal's Wager, the benefits if you're "on God's side" are clear, you should give God every chance. And if every atheist did that... well, atheism wouldn't be a problem.

And on a similar level, under the logical consequences of atheism truth is meaningless. Why in the world would you want to devote yourself to the truth of the matter instead of just go out and try to "get as much fun" out of the time of existence that you have that, looking through the lens of eternity, is only a blink of an eye. To me a sort of hedonistic nihilism is what I would go for if I were an atheist... statistics have shown that theists tend to be happier than atheists, so if you're trying to maximize happiness than you might as well consider yourself a theist, right? Maybe an absurdist theist, trying to maximize happiness in a meaningless world in a universe that's even worse than meaningless.

Long story short, I put a lot of stock in Pascal's Wager, its just that many misunderstand it as an argument attempting to prove the existence of God and end up ridiculing a straw man. But no matter what your position, ultimately choosing to believe in God makes sense.