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to or not to

Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2012 2:45 pm
by goldmoor
don't judge it is not fair to judge someone. that we been told not to judge others and their mistakes in life because we aren't perfect either. We make mistakes, we break promise ,we commit sin so we are all on the same boat ,but i think there is a problem with this , now i am not saying be critical and condenm every chance you get ,but in the christain community when someone like a famous preacher for example is caught commiting sin there those who "excommuncate" for lack of a better word ,but the there are i lot that say "oh well i can't the guy/girl yes he/she did sin but we all sin were no different" and i think that i lot of us use a way of exusing that person sin and iy is a very Ad polulum statement .its kind of like saying it ok for me to run around with no close ,because did or once had done it( sorry for the obcscene example) :shock: . i don't know maybe i'm being to judgement ,but i feel that "I don't judge people" is use to make someones wrong doing seem less serious

what the you'll think

Re: to or not to

Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2012 2:48 pm
by Echoside
There is no problem with judging an action to be incorrect. I think we are all capable of doing that. However, when people say things like "you are going to hell", these are statements that are outside of our authority. Only God has the means to judge who goes to heaven, it is not our place.

Re: to or not to

Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2012 3:09 pm
by goldmoor
Echoside wrote:There is no problem with judging an action to be incorrect. I think we are all capable of doing that. However, when people say things like "you are going to hell", these are statements that are outside of our authority. Only God has the means to judge who goes to heaven, it is not our place.

i understand tha tbut what about a person who blatantly denys christ abd rejects the gospel all his life and dies with out repenting can we assume that that person more than likely won't be going to heaven

Re: to or not to

Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2012 3:35 pm
by Furstentum Liechtenstein
goldmoor wrote:... what about a person who blatantly denys christ abd rejects the gospel all his life and dies with out repenting can we assume that that person more than likely won't be going to heaven
If the person denies Christ and dies without repenting, you can be certain he's on his way to someplace bad.

FL

Re: to or not to

Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2012 3:41 pm
by goldmoor
Furstentum Liechtenstein wrote:
goldmoor wrote:... what about a person who blatantly denys christ abd rejects the gospel all his life and dies with out repenting can we assume that that person more than likely won't be going to heaven
If the person denies Christ and dies without repenting, you can be certain he's on his way to someplace bad.

FL
true dat

Re: to or not to

Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2012 4:06 pm
by Echoside
goldmoor wrote: i understand tha tbut what about a person who blatantly denys christ abd rejects the gospel all his life and dies with out repenting can we assume that that person more than likely won't be going to heaven
Sure, but we are not privy to this person's thoughts. IF this happened, no they would not go to heaven. But only God knows all the details.

Re: to or not to

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2012 11:55 am
by CallMeDave
goldmoor wrote:don't judge it is not fair to judge someone. that we been told not to judge others and their mistakes in life because we aren't perfect either. We make mistakes, we break promise ,we commit sin so we are all on the same boat ,but i think there is a problem with this , now i am not saying be critical and condenm every chance you get ,but in the christain community when someone like a famous preacher for example is caught commiting sin there those who "excommuncate" for lack of a better word ,but the there are i lot that say "oh well i can't the guy/girl yes he/she did sin but we all sin were no different" and i think that i lot of us use a way of exusing that person sin and iy is a very Ad polulum statement .its kind of like saying it ok for me to run around with no close ,because did or once had done it( sorry for the obcscene example) :shock: . i don't know maybe i'm being to judgement ,but i feel that "I don't judge people" is use to make someones wrong doing seem less serious

what the you'll think

As Christians, there are only 2 things that apply to judging others incorrectly :

1. Do not judge anothers eternal destiny since that is Gods job .

2. Do not judge hypocritically...that is, dont judge someone elses action when you are doing the very same thing.

Other than that, we are called to judge and so discern Another ; if we didnt...then we couldnt carry out the biblical mandate of going to Someone we see following error and try to help them back on the right path. Today, the opposite of this is the (twisted) Tolerance philosophy , where people are asked to be apathetic toward whatever a person or group does ..even if it is wrong, perverted, dangerous, and harmful to individuals or the nation at large... and, for this abberant behavior to rank equal to your own beliefs, philosophy, morality, or religion. (Aint going to happen with THIS Christian !) .