Evidence for God from Science

Are they real?

Angels are. The popular portrayal of guardian angels assigned to all individuals is not Biblical.

Canuckster1127 wrote:Angels are. The popular portrayal of guardian angels assigned to all individuals is not Biblical.

How so?

Angels are clearly described and acknowledged in the Bible.

I pulled these references quickly from http://www.catholic.org/saints/angels/angelbible.php

Old Testament references

Cherubim at entrance to Garden of Eden, Genesis 3:24
Appear to Abraham, Genesis 18:1-33
Saved Lot and his family, Genesis 19:1-22
Intervened with Isaac, Genesis 22:11-18
Heavenly vision of Jacob's Ladder, Genesis 28:12
Accompanied Israel through the desert, Exodus 23:20 And Numbers 20:16

Aided the prophets

Isaiah 6:2-7
Ezekiel 1:4-28
Daniel 7:9-10
Zechariah 1:9-19

New Testament references

Appeared in connection with birth of Christ
Matthew 1:20
Luke 1:26-38

Appear to:

Paul, Acts 27:23
Peter, Acts 12:7-11
Cornelius, Acts 10:3-6
Sadducees didn't believe in angels, Acts 23:8
12 Legions of Angels, Matthew 26:53

Mentioned by name:

Michael, Daniel 10:13
Revelation, 12:7
Gabriel, Daniel 8:16
Luke 1:19

Fall of the angels
Deuteronomy 32:17
2 Peter 2:4
Jude 1:6
Revelation 12:7-9

As far as Guardian angels not being Biblical, I can't prove a negative. Do you have Biblical passages that you believe demonstrate the existence of Guardian angels? If so, please feel free to present it and we can discuss it from there.

Canuckster1127 wrote:Angels are clearly described and acknowledged in the Bible.

I pulled these references quickly from http://www.catholic.org/saints/angels/angelbible.php

Old Testament references

Cherubim at entrance to Garden of Eden, Genesis 3:24
Appear to Abraham, Genesis 18:1-33
Saved Lot and his family, Genesis 19:1-22
Intervened with Isaac, Genesis 22:11-18
Heavenly vision of Jacob's Ladder, Genesis 28:12
Accompanied Israel through the desert, Exodus 23:20 And Numbers 20:16

Aided the prophets

Isaiah 6:2-7
Ezekiel 1:4-28
Daniel 7:9-10
Zechariah 1:9-19

New Testament references

Appeared in connection with birth of Christ
Matthew 1:20
Luke 1:26-38

Appear to:

Paul, Acts 27:23
Peter, Acts 12:7-11
Cornelius, Acts 10:3-6
Sadducees didn't believe in angels, Acts 23:8
12 Legions of Angels, Matthew 26:53

Mentioned by name:

Michael, Daniel 10:13
Revelation, 12:7
Gabriel, Daniel 8:16
Luke 1:19

Fall of the angels
Deuteronomy 32:17
2 Peter 2:4
Jude 1:6
Revelation 12:7-9

As far as Guardian angels not being Biblical, I can't prove a negative. Do you have Biblical passages that you believe demonstrate the existence of Guardian angels? If so, please feel free to present it and we can discuss it from there.

Of course angels are real. I was just wondering about guardian angels. Many people accept it as true in society and I'm wondering how that came to be if there is no biblical evidence for them.

Wikipedia gives this history of the concept and it's origins both outside of Christianity (Plato) and within it (Scholasticism).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guardian_angel

It appears to be a concept that is supported by inference and not any direct teaching in Scripture. I see evidence of Angels sent by God (Angel is just a word transliterated from the Greek word "angelos" which means messenger) to protect individuals. It's quite a stretch to then make the leap that each of us has an angel assigned to us. It's also unecessary in my mind. For those who have received Christ we have Christ Himself indwelling us as the Holy Spirit. Why look for more than that?

Canuckster1127 wrote:Wikipedia gives this history of the concept and it's origins both outside of Christianity (Plato) and within it (Scholasticism).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guardian_angel

It appears to be a concept that is supported by inference and not any direct teaching in Scripture. I see evidence of Angels sent by God (Angel is just a word transliterated from the Greek word "angelos" which means messenger) to protect individuals. It's quite a stretch to then make the leap that each of us has an angel assigned to us. It's also unecessary in my mind. For those who have received Christ we have Christ Himself indwelling us as the Holy Spirit. Why look for more than that?

very true

The closest I can come is Matthew 18:10

10 "See that you do not despise one of these little ones, for I say to you, that their angels in heaven continually behold the face of My Father who is in
heaven.

Canuckster1127 wrote:Wikipedia gives this history of the concept and it's origins both outside of Christianity (Plato) and within it (Scholasticism).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guardian_angel

It appears to be a concept that is supported by inference and not any direct teaching in Scripture. I see evidence of Angels sent by God (Angel is just a word transliterated from the Greek word "angelos" which means messenger) to protect individuals. It's quite a stretch to then make the leap that each of us has an angel assigned to us. It's also unecessary in my mind. For those who have received Christ we have Christ Himself indwelling us as the Holy Spirit. Why look for more than that?

http://theholyangels.wordpress.com/our- ... -teaching/

It seems like angels are here to protect us also, in the old testament I believe it was Michael the archangel that was arguing with Satan over Moses (don't quote me on this one as I would need to go back over this).
Would any of you ever say no if someone wanted to pray for you?

I know I wouldn't , and doesn't it say in the bible that the prayers of the righteous carry greater weight with God.
Who here on this earth is more righteous than the saints, angels and our loved ones who are in heaven?
I know I'm not even close, and this is also why I continually ask them to pray for me. All Christians here on earth are supposed to be here for each other as we are each others earthly family, As the angels , saints and loves ones are our heavenly family all under the Father, Son and holy spirit.

When my grandfather was in Alexandria Egypt he came there to help a relative in his convenience store business because his workers were continually ripping him off. He knew my grandfather was honest and he called for him all the way over from Beirut to be the stores manager. When he started work, all of a sudden profits went up and stolen money and material came down. The 7 employees became furious and hatched a plan to make friends with my grandfather which they did. They then took him with them to the most remote part of the beach and then proceeded to make him dig a hole in the ground. They wanted to bury him alive in the very hole the he dug for himself.

They threw him in and proceeded to fill the hole with dirt on top of him when a mysterious old man appeared at the top of the hill, they didn't think much of him until hevstarted descending down upon them at a speed no human possessed.
His eyes were glowing with an intensity of light they never seen before. The 7 men became so frightened that they dropped their shovels started running up the hill. When my grandfather combed out of the hole to thank the old man he wasn't there. He simply vanished.

On his way home he started to remember 2 days back that his aunt in Lebanon called and told him that he was going to be in mortal danger but Saint Joseph (Mary's husband ) would save him.
He laughed at her and called her superstitious but he wasn't laughing anymore after what happened.