Evidence for God from Science

which one of these four is infallible and which three are not - twinc/Bible/Pope/Holy Ghost - twinc

twinc wrote:which one of these four is infallible and which three are not - twinc/Bible/Pope/Holy Ghost - twinc

FYI, the doctrine of "papal infallibility" does NOT mean that the Pope is infalliable like God.
Vatican II explained the doctrine of infallibility as follows: "Although the individual bishops do not enjoy the prerogative of infallibility, they can nevertheless proclaim Christ's doctrine infallibly. This is so, even when they are dispersed around the world, provided that while maintaining the bond of unity among themselves and with Peter's successor, and while teaching authentically on a matter of faith or morals, they concur in a single viewpoint as the one which must be held conclusively. This authority is even more clearly verified when, gathered together in an ecumenical council, they are teachers and judges of faith and morals for the universal Church. Their definitions must then be adhered to with the submission of faith" (Lumen Gentium 25).

Infallible-incapable of erring.

Going with that definition, the only possible correct answer would be..."the Holy Ghost". Or the Holy Spirit, which being the third person of the trinity, is God Himself.
So twinc, give up your weird/ wacky pseudo theology come home soon

We always need to be clear on the definition of a word before we go around "throwing it".
n·fal·li·ble
   [in-fal-uh-buhl] Show IPA
adjective
1.
absolutely trustworthy or sure: an infallible rule.
2.
unfailing in effectiveness or operation; certain: an infallible remedy.
3.
not fallible; exempt from liability to error, as persons, their judgment, or pronouncements: an infallible principle.
4.
Roman Catholic Church . immune from fallacy or liability to error in expounding matters of faith or morals by virtue of the promise made by Christ to the Church.
noun
5.
an infallible person or thing.

World English Dictionary
infallible (ɪnˈfæləb ə l)

— adj
1. not fallible; not liable to error
2. not liable to failure; certain; sure: an infallible cure
3. completely dependable or trustworthy

— n
4. a person or thing that is incapable of error or failure

I see your point, Paul. Depending on which definition twinc wants to use, he can claim any of the four he listed, is infallible. Sneaky old chap!

RickD wrote:I see your point, Paul. Depending on which definition twinc wants to use, he can claim any of the four he listed, is infallible. Sneaky old chap!

Well, I wasn't going that direction.
I tend to give my christian brothers the benefit of the doubt, especially since I know there are so many ways to interpret things from the bible and ALL are "prooftexted" to death.
(One of the reasons I don't prooftext myself).
I personally view the bible as infallible in the sense that it does NOT FAIL to show us what it was written to do.
It is trustworthy and IF we take each book under the GENRE it was wriiten, it can even be viewed as inerrant.
Unfortunately most people who use the word "inerrant" don't do that and set themselves up having to explain the "errors and contridictions" in the bible.

and the question was - without the tangents,offshoots and tangled webs we weave - twinc

PaulSacramento wrote:

RickD wrote:I see your point, Paul. Depending on which definition twinc wants to use, he can claim any of the four he listed, is infallible. Sneaky old chap!

Well, I wasn't going that direction.
I tend to give my christian brothers the benefit of the doubt, especially since I know there are so many ways to interpret things from the bible and ALL are "prooftexted" to death.
(One of the reasons I don't prooftext myself).
I personally view the bible as infallible in the sense that it does NOT FAIL to show us what it was written to do.
It is trustworthy and IF we take each book under the GENRE it was wriiten, it can even be viewed as inerrant.
Unfortunately most people who use the word "inerrant" don't do that and set themselves up having to explain the "errors and contridictions" in the bible.

there are no errors and contradictions in the Bible but in minds - twinc

Oivey....

there are no errors and contradictions in the Bible but in minds

Or the other way around...

BryanH wrote:

there are no errors and contradictions in the Bible but in minds

Or the other way around...

so Christ got it wrong and died in vain - what sort of Christianity are you into - twinc

twinc wrote:

BryanH wrote:

there are no errors and contradictions in the Bible but in minds

Or the other way around...

so Christ got it wrong and died in vain - what sort of Christianity are you into - twinc

twinc, Bryan is not a Christian. If you look at his profile, you can see that.

RickD wrote:

twinc wrote:

BryanH wrote:

there are no errors and contradictions in the Bible but in minds

Or the other way around...

so Christ got it wrong and died in vain - what sort of Christianity are you into - twinc

twinc, Bryan is not a Christian. If you look at his profile, you can see that.

I thought it was obvious from his posts.
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BavarianWheels wrote:

RickD wrote:

twinc wrote:

BryanH wrote:

there are no errors and contradictions in the Bible but in minds

Or the other way around...

so Christ got it wrong and died in vain - what sort of Christianity are you into - twinc

twinc, Bryan is not a Christian. If you look at his profile, you can see that.

I thought it was obvious from his posts.
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I did too, Bav. But some of us are a little slow picking up on things like that.