Evidence for God from Science

I was shown this site: http://www.jewfaq.org/613.htm. So many commandments? I was stunned by some. Your opinion on the commandments?

Yeah, they had a lot of rules but it was a necessity of the time.
Israel needed all those rules to keep the covenant with God as His Holy People.
Many of those Laws were or had causal laws ( If you do this...), they were NOT authorizations or condonings of those acts, but causal laws that were put into place ( an example is the rape laws and slave laws).

1over137 wrote:I was shown this site: http://www.jewfaq.org/613.htm. So many commandments? I was stunned by some. Your opinion on the commandments?

Don't be surprised, 613 isn't so much. I'm quite sure that there are more than 613 laws in Slobovia.

FL

Do we have to follow those commandments?
By the way, the number 162 reads: "Not to eat the flesh of an ox that was condemned to be stoned (Ex. 21:28) "
Ox condemned to be stoned? Why?

Do we have to follow those commandments?

I do. It's really not that difficult, once I stopped committing sodomy with my Father's brother(#94), the rest are easy.

Ox condemned to be stoned? Why?

because the ox was participating in #105:

That a woman shall not have intercourse with a beast (Lev. 18:23) (CCN118).

I also forgot, I had some trouble with #11:

To honor the old and the wise (Lev. 19:32) (CCA17).

For breakfast, I used to put ex lax in my grandmother's hot cocoa, and I used to make her eat pancakes I made out of plaster of Paris.

because the ox was participating in #105:

or simply that the ox was stoned (caught with enough weed to be stoned)

Be serious please.

1over137 » Tue Jul 31, 2012 11:44 am

Be serious please.

That's just an expression... never mind.

neo-x wrote:

1over137 » Tue Jul 31, 2012 11:44 am

Be serious please.

That's just an expression... never mind.

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1over137 wrote: condemned to be stoned? Why?

Ex 21:28b indicates that an animal can be held responsible for its actions. (But I prefer neo-x's answer!)

FL

Furstentum Liechtenstein wrote:

1over137 wrote: condemned to be stoned? Why?

Ex 21:28b indicates that an animal can be held responsible for its actions. (But I prefer neo-x's answer!)

FL

It's not because the animal is responsible for its actions, it's to protect other human beings 1) from being attacked again, and 2) from eating the flesh of an animal who took away one of their own (as if in celebration of) and also who might be diseased (they didn't have a name for it but I'm reasonably sure they had mad cow back then too).

another rule is: "243.That a transgressor shall not testify (Ex. 23:1)"
But what if someone was falsely called a transgressor? How can he defense himself? If you have a one-on-one case without additional witnesses then what?

We need to remember that many of those laws made sense to the people ( hebrews) of that time and they would have understood them better.
We have a written account of them of course BUT I am sure there was much discussion by the people and the applicable authorities as to what they meant and why.

Paul: Do we or do we not have to obey all those laws and why?

1over137 wrote:Paul: Do we or do we not have to obey all those laws and why?

Well, not to get into TOO MUCH of a theological debate about what Christ said in regards to Him Fullfilling the Law, we have to take those Laws and apply them into the context of OUR lives, just as the Hebrews did in their lives.
We have different methods of putting people on trial, capital punishment is NOT an option in many places and even in the ones that it is, it is only applicable to serious crimes that involve the killing of another (typically).
Do we HAVE to obey those laws? No.
Should we perhaps obey some of them? Perhaps.
It is up to the individual to decide.