snorider wrote:one person killing millions does not reflect the views of other "atheists".
and neither does some "Christian" killing people reflect on the rest of Christianity.
snorider wrote:There isn't a church of "Atheism"
Really!!! Please check out this link
http://firstchurchofatheism.com/
Excerpt from an article
http://nymag.com/news/features/46214/
So some atheists are taking seriously the idea that atheism needs to stand for things, like evolution and ethics, not just against things, like God. The most successful movements in history, after all—Christianity, Islam, Hinduism, etc.—all have creeds, cathedrals, schools, hierarchies, rituals, money, clerics, and some version of a heavenly afterlife. Churches fill needs, goes the argument—they inculcate ethics, give meaning, build communities. “Science and reason are important,” says Greg Epstein, the humanist chaplain of Harvard University. “But science and reason won’t visit you in the hospital.”
Many atheist sects are experimenting with building new, human-centered quasi-religious organizations, much like Ethical Culture. They aim to remove God from the church, while leaving the church, at least large parts of it, standing. But this impulse is fueling a growing schism among atheists. Many of them see churches as part of the problem. They want to throw out the baby and the bathwater—or at least they don’t see the need for the bathwater once the baby is gone.
Seems like atheism is now a religion.
Now, should we talk about the Crusades?
Neo-x posted this awhile ago
neo-x wrote:Atheists alone killed more poeple in the last century...
An excerpt from the Irrational Atheist by Vox Day, Pg: 240-242, Chapter Red Hand of Atheism.
there have been twenty-eight countries in world history that can be confirmed to have been ruled by regimes with avowed atheists at the
helm, beginning with the First French Republic and ending with the four atheist regimes currently extant: the People’s Republic of China,
the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea, the Lao People’s Democratic Republic, and the Socialist Republic of Vietnam. These twenty-
eight historical regimes have been ruled by eighty-nine atheists, of whom more than half have engaged in democidal15 acts of the sort
committed by Stalin and Mao and are known to have murdered at least 20,000 of their own citizens.
The total body count for the ninety years between 1917 and 2007 is approximately 148 million dead at the bloody hands of fifty-two
atheists, three times more than all the human beings killed by war, civil war, and individual crime in the entire twentieth century combined.
The historical record of collective atheism is thus 182,716 times worse on an annual basis than Christianity’s worst and most
infamous misdeed, the Spanish Inquisition. It is not only Stalin and Mao who were so murderously inclined, they were merely the worst
of the whole Hell-bound lot. For every Pol Pot whose infamous name is still spoken with horror today, there was a Mengistu, a Bierut, and
a Choibalsan, godless men whose names are now forgotten everywhere...
Is a 58 percent chance that an atheist leader will murder a noticeable percentage of the population over which he rules sufficient evidence
that atheism does, in fact, provide a systematic influence to do bad things? If that is not deemed to be conclusive, how about the fact
that the average atheist crime against humanity is 18.3 million percent worse than the very worst depredation committed by Christians,
even though atheists have had less than one-twentieth the number of opportunities with which to commit them. If one considers the statistically
significant size of the historical atheist set and contrasts it with the fact that not one in a thousand religious leaders have committed
similarly large-scale atrocities, it is impossible to conclude otherwise, even if we do not yet understand exactly why this should be the case.
Once might be an accident, even twice could be coincidence, but fifty-two incidents in ninety years reeks of causation!
Now please stop bashing religion, God is not responsible for Human wrong doings and neither is an institution whether it be scientific, religious, atheist etc......
Dan