Evidence for God from Science

Hey guys, I was having a discussion with a friend on atonement and we had an interesting discussion. Now, we're all aware that different churches have different views on this.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atonement_in_Christianity

However, are we all in agreement on the EXACT moment?

Excuse me for my terms here, but on the subject of atonement, although it may be inadequate to use the word "victory" along with it. Its obvious to me and maybe not to everyone else, but we couldn't we say that everything Christ did was a victory?

Every beating, every punishment handed out by the Roman authority, every step he took to Calvary, every nail, every second it went on was a victory for those who believed who he said he was?
It wasn't obvious to his followers at the time, and it may not even be obvious to some of us this day. Wasn't the victory BEYOND imminent? I understand thats its part of our reality as Christians, but it baffles me that we often see it more in the sense of shame instead of the victory that it is.

I often hear these catch phrases like, "Our sin is upon the cross" or "Every time we sin, we send Jesus through that over again". Isn't this the wrong way to portray it? When we tell other religions things like this, isn't this just really giving them the WRONG overall idea? Isn't it obvious to all of us that there isn't a single thing we can do to please God on our own? I am not sure why we need to hammer this in.

So, going back to the first question. In your view, where is the exact moment of atonement? It very much interests me if theres disagreements anywhere.

Time is irrelevant, but I believe it was at the resurrection.

Why are you looking for an exact moment? Wasn't it Gods plan from before the foundation of the world?

1 Peter 1:20 20 For He was foreknown before the foundation of the world, but has appeared in these last times for the sake of you

The moment of atonement was when Christ said "It is finished." That is the moment.
But it sounds like you may be asking, when is one regenerated.

Paulsac,

I don't think time is irrelevant. Maybe you were trying to say something else?

Rick,

I don't believe devine foreknowledge somehow changes the answer. I think you have a interesting answer tho.

Jlay,

That's actually a pretty good answer. I wasn't asking about regenation tho. Although, that's certainly interesting as well.

Ah. Atonement.
The important thing is that it happened. (God is also outside time so it should just happen once.)
The moment... maybe I can get a derivative of the function would that help?
Joking aside, I think I'd agree with jlay, it is when Christ said, "It is finished."

@RickD Indeed, God's thought was what mattered.

~Grey

Ok, how about this, as another opinion: “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?” was the moment of atonement.

Can we know for sure? If not, then I think we should just accept that it happened at some point in history - figuring out the exact moment of it's origin appears to be pointless.

SB