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Israel
Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 12:07 pm
by Murray
Well i had like a 1,000 word post on this but it confused me so i'll just sum it up simply.
Was hitler part of gods plan to restore israel?
Re: Israel
Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 12:15 pm
by PaulSacramento
Everything is part of God's plan.
That doesn't mean that God CAUSES things to go a certain way or that God MAKES people do certain things.
Re: Israel
Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 2:27 pm
by 1stjohn0666
Maybe so!!! What if Hitler asked for forgiveness and repented before his death, I would say that even Hitler could be a saved man.
Re: Israel
Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 4:57 pm
by Danieltwotwenty
Speculation will never gets you anywhere, just adds confusion and misdirection.
Re: Israel
Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 6:37 pm
by Murray
according to romans 13:1 god puts all leaders in power. but then that means divine right was true, and we don't actually live in a democracy..... my head is spinning (not that I believe in divine right or that we don't live in a democracy)
Re: Israel
Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 6:39 am
by PaulSacramento
1stjohn0666 wrote:Maybe so!!! What if Hitler asked for forgiveness and repented before his death, I would say that even Hitler could be a saved man.
Considering what that would mean to him ( Hitler) I doubt very much if he could repent and ask for forgiveness.
That would mean that he would become self-aware of all the pain and suffering he caused and inflicted on everyone, that he would feel their pain and suffering.
Thing about that.
Do you think someone like Hitler would do that?
Then there is the issue that Hitler blasphemed against the HS, which is an unforgivable sin.
Re: Israel
Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 6:53 am
by Murray
I think hitler was probably regretted more that he never got the chance to complete his plans.
Re: Israel
Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 7:01 am
by RickD
Murray wrote:I think hitler was probably regretted more that he never got the chance to complete his plans.
I think Hitler's biggest regret would be that he never got to watch Seinfeld. He would've loved the Soup Nazi. "You want bread? NO SOUP FOR YOU!!!!"
Re: Israel
Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 6:52 am
by Furstentum Liechtenstein
Here is a great site full of hatred against the Jews, presented to look reasonable and palatable for Western sensibilities:
www.radioislam.org/
FL
Re: Israel
Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 12:38 am
by Sam1995
PaulSacramento wrote: Then there is the issue that Hitler blasphemed against the HS, which is an unforgivable sin.
Again, I think that's another issue of the heart - for example, it's very easy to say something when you are in a bad mood but in fact do not mean it, I'm sure we've all been there. Maybe not necessarily cursing God, but you understand the meaning of what I'm saying here.
What would you define blasphemy against the HS as Paul?
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