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WHERE DID CAIN GET HIS WIFE?

Some wrongly prescribe that Cain married one of the daughters or descendants daughters of Adam.
Ch.4:16-24 says, Cain was already banished from the presence of the Lord and dwelt in Nod, east of Eden. There he Knew his wife and got a son named Enoch, and also built a city and named it after his son. Now that is an endeavor requiring many.
Ch.4: 25, and ch.5:3:- The Bible says that after Cain was Banished and when Adam was 130 years of age he got a son called Seth.
So where did Cain got his wife (Ch. 4:17)

In order to understand this we should go back to Ch. 1and Ch2. Of Genesis.
Ch1:26 -27 God created man in his own image – male and female he created them on the sixth Day.
Ch. 2 . Gives genealogy of Adam. This is after the Seventh Day, however it leaves the question of Lapsed period after the seventh Day.
Nowhere we can perceive that the account of creation of Adam is immediately after the seventh day.
Ch.2,3&4; gives an account making of man out of dust of the ground , the Garden of Eden, The sin of Adam and Eve and of the start of a particular race, Sired by Adam & Eve.
The discontinuity at Ch. 2 verse 4 is noticeable.
It is incorrect to state that description of Adam and Eve in Genesis Ch.2, is a repetition of Ch1:26-27, because of differences in these two accounts. In chapter 1, God created all kind of animals and living creatures first (Ver. 24&25). God then created man and women in his own image(Ch.1:27).He further told them (CH1. :28 ) to be fruitful and multiply and replenish the earth and subdue it.

Ch.2 : After the seventh Day God created Adam planted him in garden of Eden and then brought the all the animals, beast and fowls - which God Had created to Adam to search for a mate for Adam . Adam named them but not found a mate. God then made woman taking one of Adam’s rib and making it a Woman .
Thus the creation of Adam and Eve is secondary to creation of man as described in Chapter 1, Genesis.
Adam & Eve and their progenies are an account of the Jew - race. They were the first of this race but not the first man & women. Genesis. Ch 1: 26 & 27 clearly states that men were created before Adam & Eve.
The inference is clear that there were other people inhabiting earth when Adam & Eve were made by God..
Hence there was no difficulty for Cain to find enough people to help him build and populate a city.
An unambiguous inference is that Cain's progenies {Ch 4,-26} were of a mixed Blood.
For Cain it is clear, For Seth it is a probable, because Adam sired many children after Seth and he might have married one of Adams offsprings, but writings in Genesis leaves a big doubt.
Assuming that Seth Married an "outsider"; Noah and his progenies are nothig special as desendants of Adam.
Gen. Ch. 2 onwards is just an account and Genealogy of The Jewish race.
The Book of Genesis is the collection of writings of Moses (OR Whosoever)compiled as Book of Genesis at a later date.

Genesis 1 and 2 are typiclaly viewed as two different stories ( sources),
They complement each other and Genesis 2 is basically viewed as a detail of what happened when Man was created OR what happened AFTER .
Neither one states that Adma and Eve were the ONLY two humans on Earth and that Cain and Abel ( along with Adam and Eve) were the ONLY people.
A natural reading actually implies the opposite:

Then the Lord said to Cain, “Where is Abel your brother?” And he said, “I do not know. Am I my brother’s keeper?” 10 He said, “What have you done? The voice of your brother’s blood is crying to Me from the ground. 11 Now you are cursed from the ground, which has opened its mouth to receive your brother’s blood from your hand. 12 When you cultivate the ground, it will no longer yield its strength to you; you will be a vagrant and a wanderer on the earth.” 13 Cain said to the Lord, “My punishment is too great to bear! 14 Behold, You have driven me this day from the face of the ground; and from Your face I will be hidden, and I will be a vagrant and a wanderer on the earth, and whoever finds me will kill me.” 15 So the Lord said to him, “Therefore whoever kills Cain, vengeance will be taken on him sevenfold.” And the Lord appointed a sign for Cain, so that no one finding him would slay him.

16 Then Cain went out from the presence of the Lord, and settled in the land of Nod, east of Eden.

17 Cain had relations with his wife and she conceived, and gave birth to Enoch; and he built a city, and called the name of the city Enoch, after the name of his son. 18 Now to Enoch was born Irad, and Irad became the father of Mehujael, and Mehujael became the father of Methushael, and Methushael became the father of Lamech. 19 Lamech took to himself two wives: the name of the one was Adah, and the name of the other, Zillah. 20 Adah gave birth to Jabal; he was the father of those who dwell in tents and have livestock. 21 His brother’s name was Jubal; he was the father of all those who play the lyre and pipe. 22 As for Zillah, she also gave birth to Tubal-cain, the forger of all implements of bronze and iron; and the sister of Tubal-cain was Naamah

It seems that the land of Nod was already in existence ( no mention of Cain founding it) and seems that Cain either had a wife already or found one rather quick.
We note that His children found wives also.
Note that the story is also imply that from here we get the various professions or trades of the ANE:

20 Adah gave birth to Jabal; he was the father of those who dwell in tents and have livestock. 21 His brother’s name was Jubal; he was the father of all those who play the lyre and pipe. 22 As for Zillah, she also gave birth to Tubal-cain, the forger of all implements of bronze and iron...

Chapter one of Genesis describes the creation of the world with the creation of humans taking place on the sixth day. Chapter two gives a more detailed description of the creation of the first humans.

When no bush of the field was yet in the land and no small plant of the field had yet sprung up—for the LORD God had not caused it to rain on the land, and there was no man to work the ground, and a mist was going up from the land and was watering the whole face of the ground—then the LORD God formed the man of dust from the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living creature.
(Genesis 2:5-7 ESV)

It doesn't say no plants had been created, only those that were intended to be cultivated by humans.

Some people don't read the creation account carefully and have misconceptions about what it actually says.

http://clydeherrin.wordpress.com/2012/0 ... lly-say-2/

Here is some information about Cain's wife:

http://www.answersingenesis.org/article ... cains-wife

theophilus wrote:Chapter one of Genesis describes the creation of the world with the creation of humans taking place on the sixth day. Chapter two gives a more detailed description of the creation of the first humans.

Have you considered yet the difference in meaning between create and form?

Indurkar wrote:WHERE DID CAIN GET HIS WIFE?

Some wrongly prescribe that Cain married one of the daughters or descendants daughters of Adam.
Ch.4:16-24 says, Cain was already banished from the presence of the Lord and dwelt in Nod, east of Eden. There he Knew his wife and got a son named Enoch, and also built a city and named it after his son. Now that is an endeavor requiring many.
Ch.4: 25, and ch.5:3:- The Bible says that after Cain was Banished and when Adam was 130 years of age he got a son called Seth.
So where did Cain got his wife (Ch. 4:17)

In order to understand this we should go back to Ch. 1and Ch2. Of Genesis.
Ch1:26 -27 God created man in his own image – male and female he created them on the sixth Day.
Ch. 2 . Gives genealogy of Adam. This is after the Seventh Day, however it leaves the question of Lapsed period after the seventh Day.
Nowhere we can perceive that the account of creation of Adam is immediately after the seventh day.
Ch.2,3&4; gives an account making of man out of dust of the ground , the Garden of Eden, The sin of Adam and Eve and of the start of a particular race, Sired by Adam & Eve.
The discontinuity at Ch. 2 verse 4 is noticeable.
It is incorrect to state that description of Adam and Eve in Genesis Ch.2, is a repetition of Ch1:26-27, because of differences in these two accounts. In chapter 1, God created all kind of animals and living creatures first (Ver. 24&25). God then created man and women in his own image(Ch.1:27).He further told them (CH1. :28 ) to be fruitful and multiply and replenish the earth and subdue it.

Ch.2 : After the seventh Day God created Adam planted him in garden of Eden and then brought the all the animals, beast and fowls - which God Had created to Adam to search for a mate for Adam . Adam named them but not found a mate. God then made woman taking one of Adam’s rib and making it a Woman .
Thus the creation of Adam and Eve is secondary to creation of man as described in Chapter 1, Genesis.
Adam & Eve and their progenies are an account of the Jew - race. They were the first of this race but not the first man & women. Genesis. Ch 1: 26 & 27 clearly states that men were created before Adam & Eve.
The inference is clear that there were other people inhabiting earth when Adam & Eve were made by God..
Hence there was no difficulty for Cain to find enough people to help him build and populate a city.
An unambiguous inference is that Cain's progenies {Ch 4,-26} were of a mixed Blood.
For Cain it is clear, For Seth it is a probable, because Adam sired many children after Seth and he might have married one of Adams offsprings, but writings in Genesis leaves a big doubt.
Assuming that Seth Married an "outsider"; Noah and his progenies are nothig special as desendants of Adam.
Gen. Ch. 2 onwards is just an account and Genealogy of The Jewish race.
The Book of Genesis is the collection of writings of Moses (OR Whosoever)compiled as Book of Genesis at a later date.

Agree with everything you have written here - Good post.

God Bless

Silvertusk.

This is in continuation to my earlier post:-
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Some scholars regard making of Adam and Eve as a story; a story to describe the disobedience and sin.
If that is taken to be the correct interpretation then Adam’s descendants , Seth and down to Noah are intrinsically the part of the story. This leads to the Noah and the floods as being a story.

But some regard that Floods did take place. They site certain occurrences such as Polonium-Rings (Halos) , radio-geological dating , and certain fossil records. If that is true then Adam and Eve were real (not fictional) persons and they were not the first Humans on Earth (Gen. ch1:26&27; and Gen. Ch2:7onwards).
Also Gen. Ch.4:17 describes that Cain went to the land of Nod and built a city there (where did he find people there to build a city?), and also Gen Ch 6:1 -3 describes about Sons of God and Daughters of Men.
The Young Earth Creationists calculate the period of time when Adam & Eve were made, by God ; which is about 6000 year from present day. Further they erroneously ascribe this to be the age of Creation of Universe. However there is a gap after the sixth day and – Gen. ch2:4. The seventh day of the Genesis. In my I reckoning that is a very long gap of time-period.
Creation of Universe (Earth and Heaven ) Gen. Ch.1 , as well as the time-period of making man; can not be tied to time-period of making of Adam and Eve. Adam and eve may be 6000yrs.old, but this is not the age of creation of Universe (Earth and Heavens), nor of the making of Man in God’s own image.

Gen. Ch:2 verse 2 says “ And on seventh day God ended his work………and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made. - KJV).
What should this mean ? Surely God being Omnipotent does not need to be rested . I believe this is to bring in the the gap of time- period before the writing of the next phase - Ch:2 verse4. This simply is the way Moses (or whosoever ) wrote describes the end of phase one of creation and the second phase.

Young Earth Creationists contend that God created Heavens and Earth in 6 days – 24Hrs. a Day.
An inquiry into following is then valid:

1. If God created in 6 days - 24 hrs. day, then when God said Let there be ........ and there was.....,Instantaneously. So what was God engaged in rest of this 24 hr. period ? Or to rephrase Why should God need 24 hours to accomplish something ? Is He not Omnipotent ?

2. When Earth and Sun with solar system was not Created and also Laser Frequency clock was not there, What is the meaning of 24-hrs. Day and 6 days ? Earth and solar system were created on the 3rd day. So what was the measure of 24Hrs. on Day-1 and Day-2?

Some kind of Long - Day "Process" is inbuilt in Creation.

Indurkar wrote: 1. If God created in 6 days - 24 hrs. day, then when God said Let there be ........ and there was.....,Instantaneously. So what was God engaged in rest of this 24 hr. period ? Or to rephrase Why should God need 24 hours to accomplish something ? Is He not Omnipotent ?

That is an excellent point. Never thought of that.

Indurkar wrote:
WHERE DID CAIN GET HIS WIFE?

I believe she was a Russian mail-order bride.

Ch 1: 26 & 27 clearly states that men were created before Adam & Eve.

In my opinion, it is not so.

Genesis 2 starts as follows:
"1 Thus the heavens and the earth were completed, and all their hosts. 2 By the seventh day God completed His work which He had done, and He rested on the seventh day from all His work which He had done. 3 Then God blessed the seventh day and sanctified it, because in it He rested from all His work which God had created and made.

4 This is the account of the heavens and the earth when they were created, in the day that the Lord God made earth and heaven. 5 Now no shrub of the field was yet in the earth, and no plant of the field had yet sprouted, for the Lord God had not sent rain upon the earth, and there was no man to cultivate the ground. 6 But a [d]mist used to rise from the earth and water the whole surface of the ground. 7 Then the Lord God formed man of dust from the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living being."

So, chapter 2 returns to creation of men.

I spotted further this:
Genesis 3:20: "Now the man called his wife’s name Eve, because she was the mother of all the living. "

Indurkar wrote: Young Earth Creationists contend that God created Heavens and Earth in 6 days – 24Hrs. a Day.
An inquiry into following is then valid:

1. If God created in 6 days - 24 hrs. day, then when God said Let there be ........ and there was.....,Instantaneously. So what was God engaged in rest of this 24 hr. period ? Or to rephrase Why should God need 24 hours to accomplish something ? Is He not Omnipotent ?

He didn't need 24 hours. He could have created everything instantly but chose not to do so. We have no way of knowing why he does things the way he does. And actually we don't know if the days were 24 hours. Perhaps you would find this interesting:

http://clydeherrin.wordpress.com/2012/0 ... -the-days/

2. When Earth and Sun with solar system was not Created and also Laser Frequency clock was not there, What is the meaning of 24-hrs. Day and 6 days ? Earth and solar system were created on the 3rd day. So what was the measure of 24Hrs. on Day-1 and Day-2?

Actually it doesn't say he created the sun on the fourth day, only that he made lights in the sky. It doesn't say he created the bodies that were the source of those lights.

http://clydeherrin.wordpress.com/2012/0 ... lly-say-2/

1over137 wrote:
So, chapter 2 returns to creation of men.

I spotted further this:
Genesis 3:20: "Now the man called his wife’s name Eve, because she was the mother of all the living. "

So we are back tothe square-one.
Gen 3:20 Is the writer not giving an account of Adam &Eve ?

w.r.t Theophilus's reference to:- http://clydeherrin...........

This is a misinterpratation.
1. What should we understand when it says "Without form and void...." .The interpretation by that blog is not logical.

2. The Earth's Spin could never be anything other than 24 Hrs. - Now OR earlier. It is a statement that God had different
set of laws of physical motion before the floods. If the earth's spin was anything different we will not be here writing Blogs and articles. We must be constrained and adhere to the Boundary conditions which God has set for us - which includes The laws of Physical motion.

Indurkar wrote:

1over137 wrote:
So, chapter 2 returns to creation of men.

I spotted further this:
Genesis 3:20: "Now the man called his wife’s name Eve, because she was the mother of all the living. "

So we are back tothe square-one.
Gen 3:20 Is the writer not giving an account of Adam &Eve ?

Sorry for not responding. I missed your post.

But I do not understand your question. Can you reformulate?

RE: Genesis 3:20

We always have to be careful putting what we THINK into the "pen" of the writers.
This verse can be viewed, literally, as Eve being the mother of ALL that is Living, animals and all.
We know this is not the case of course.
Since the writers of Genesis 3 was writing about the history of what would be the Jewish people and their descendents, it would seem to mean that THEY are all descendent from Eve ( and Adam).

So ignore that verse Hana presented because of an extreme literal interpretation none would have attributed to the verse. Not sure why anyone would inject animals in there... is there any early Christan writing for this in either Western or Eastern church thinking?