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My Dearest

Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 7:06 am
by GreyDeSilvisanctis
Hello friends!

I just want to share this song that's been on my mind for quite some time:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-nauksf7sw

It gave me a question: Would God separate two lovers?
My answer is No because I think God respects our choices. Actually, maybe I'm taking this out of context. Never mind that.

In any case, please share your thoughts! :)

~ Grey :D

BTW, here's the original song if you want to hear it in Japanese:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcFbq8WGfZE

Re: My Dearest

Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 8:21 am
by 1over137
Question on you: Then what do you think about this:
2 Corinthians 6:14
"Do not be bound together with unbelievers; for what partnership have righteousness and lawlessness, or what fellowship has light with darkness? "

Re: My Dearest

Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 1:10 pm
by 1over137
I just came across this song Hallelujah http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gUCaxQrXk00
It's about broken love.

No, God does not respect our choices and He would separate 2 lovers sometimes or more than sometimes. Only God knows.
We are to respect Him and not He us, esp. when we do not respect him.

I may seem to be cold, but we are not to fool ourselves.

Re: My Dearest

Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 11:17 pm
by GreyDeSilvisanctis
1over137 wrote:Question on you: Then what do you think about this:
2 Corinthians 6:14
"Do not be bound together with unbelievers; for what partnership have righteousness and lawlessness, or what fellowship has light with darkness? "
Hana, I understand that passage. How you got there? I'm not entirely sure. But I could say that you misinterpreted what I had written earlier. I reiterate: Would God separate to lovers? My answer was: No because He respects our choices. You seem to attach being bound to unbelievers as love. This is only a particular case.

In case you're confused about what I mean about respect, I define respect in this context: to refrain from intruding upon or interfering with: to respect a person's privacy (from http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/respect verb, no. 11).

BUT I do understand the case you're trying to make. See below on my response to your second comment.
1over137 wrote:I just came across this song Hallelujah http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gUCaxQrXk00
It's about broken love.

No, God does not respect our choices and He would separate 2 lovers sometimes or more than sometimes. Only God knows.
We are to respect Him and not He us, esp. when we do not respect him.

I may seem to be cold, but we are not to fool ourselves.
Indeed, I won't fool myself. The video you just posted was about broken love: about David's failure with Bathsheba. My answer still stands. God still does respect our choice and this is not just in love but in everything. Note that if God had NOT respected our choices, then God would NOT have let David do what He was about to do: murder and adultery and theft. According to the narrative, David had done these things and God did not stop him. Now don't get me wrong, God may have respected David's choice but this does not mean that He did not hate what David had done which was against the law. For God had already known that David knew the law, all He needed to do was persuade David not to break it. This is what I mean about respect. In fact, according to the song you posted, David wrote the beautiful lyric because he was broken which is the effect of sin.

I love how C. S. Lewis puts it: "There are only two kinds of people in the end: those who say to God, Thy will be done, and those to whom God says, in the end, Thy will be done." This is God respecting our choices.

Concerning the separation of lovers and I'm speaking about true lovers (since this is what I had interpreted in the song that I posted above) who have committed themselves to each other and none other, they are essentially married. Is this not the definition of love in the Word of God? I find it hard that a Holy, Just, and Powerful God who made the Law would Himself break the Law. Since God came as a man in Jesus, He told us that what God has joined together, let man not separate (Matt 19:6). Of course there's the question of death but this is not in context anymore.

As for 2 Corinthians 6:14, this and the following verses in the chapter is a warning on idolatry which I agree with. We need to be careful with our love life. This is a dangerous situation that many like David and Samson, to name two, have fallen in. I have experienced this hell break loose in my life when I placed a special someone on God's place to give me what only God can give me. There was a lot of tears shed and brokenness. Now, we have buried the hatchet and became friends and I thank God for that. This really is the point of the song that I posted above. I repeat to everyone who is reading this (even myself): be careful with idols.

~ Grey

Re: My Dearest

Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 6:59 am
by 1over137
Thanks for your clarification. Was great reading.

I just wanted to be sure. :)

Re: My Dearest

Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 7:28 pm
by GreyDeSilvisanctis
1over137 wrote:Thanks for your clarification. Was great reading.

I just wanted to be sure. :)
You're welcome, Hana. :)

I seem to have a problem with clarifying myself. :lol:
Anyways, thanks for reading.

~ Grey

Re: My Dearest

Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 2:09 am
by 1over137
... or I have problem with understanding :lol: