Evidence for God from Science

Hi there

I am new to being Christian and I am forever grateful to the Lord for bringing me into His fold. I came across something in Genesis that I just don't get, no matter which way I look at it so I hope some of you wise folks can explain it to me. God created everything including the first human and apparently had a plan to save us even after Adam sinned as God apparently knew he would). Why then did God not anticipate creating a female for Adam ? Genesis has Him bringing the animals to Adam to name and to see if a suitable companion is among them and only when none is found does he create Eve? What if Adam had fancied a sheep? Why is that passage even in there if God knows the beginning and the end he would know that Adam needed a female counterpart. Its a small thing but its bugging me

With love and faith
Carolyn

A lot of anthropomorphism is used in the Bible to relate God to concepts we can understand - for instance it seems like God was adapting to situations he did not know would come which is a very human quality - but really the whole thing was for Adam's benefit. God knew the outcome but he needed Adam to realise for himself. God does that a lot - he knows the outcomes but allows us to make the journey to figure out what he already knew. This is also a good quality in a manager.


Welcome to the board.

Silvertusk.

Ok, so it is a way of illustrating that bestiality is a sin? None of the animals was suitable as a wife but Adam had to realize that for himself?

CazPerth wrote:Ok, so it is a way of illustrating that bestiality is a sin? None of the animals was suitable as a wife but Adam had to realize that for himself?

I guess that was one way of looking at it - but I don't think the text implies that Adam copulated with the animals.

the thing is without female counterpart male genetic mechanism does not make sense, when apparently all the animals have female counterparts. unless God made human a pair together, or the story is simply an easy way to illustrate the point that God cares for man.

CazPerth wrote:Hi there

I am new to being Christian and I am forever grateful to the Lord for bringing me into His fold. I came across something in Genesis that I just don't get, no matter which way I look at it so I hope some of you wise folks can explain it to me. God created everything including the first human and apparently had a plan to save us even after Adam sinned as God apparently knew he would). Why then did God not anticipate creating a female for Adam ? Genesis has Him bringing the animals to Adam to name and to see if a suitable companion is among them and only when none is found does he create Eve? What if Adam had fancied a sheep? Why is that passage even in there if God knows the beginning and the end he would know that Adam needed a female counterpart. Its a small thing but its bugging me

With love and faith
Carolyn

God knew that Adam ( and Eve) had the capacity to sin and that there was a very good chance they would and God gave them everything they need ( including warnings about what would happen if they did) for them NOT to sin BUT God can't go against free will, that would be going against His Divine nature.

CazPerth wrote:Ok, so it is a way of illustrating that bestiality is a sin? None of the animals was suitable as a wife but Adam had to realize that for himself?

not just teach that beastiality is a sin . . . more like to show Adama that humans are set apart from the rest of creation in a special way. he learned his need for companionship, and that it could not be fulfilled by any animal. he needed someone like himself. that God gave Eve to Adam shows that she is a special gift, not simply another part of creation that he is to rule over. that has all kind of important theological and relational and marital applications.

I sense another 'Tennessee' joke coming from Rick.

Tennessee, where men are men and the sheep are nervous. Baaahhhh

jlay wrote:I sense another 'Tennessee' joke coming from Rick.

Tennessee, where men are men and the sheep are nervous. Baaahhhh

Actually, that's northern Georgia. Right Jac?

Actually the origin of that joke is Wales.

We have the same joke/jokes for New Zealanders.

You guys are a hoot!!! I'm learning things here I never thought I'd learn here!!

That joke is so old the Hebrews probably had it about Babylonians

But anyway, I think I get it now, the passage is to demonstrate that humans are above animals and that the union between man and woman is to be strong as we are literally of the same flesh. But could Moses have been just a bit more straightforward

CazPerth wrote:That joke is so old the Hebrews probably had it about Babylonians

But anyway, I think I get it now, the passage is to demonstrate that humans are above animals and that the union between man and woman is to be strong as we are literally of the same flesh. But could Moses have been just a bit more straightforward

they probably believed it word for word, literally.

CazPerth wrote:That joke is so old the Hebrews probably had it about Babylonians

But anyway, I think I get it now, the passage is to demonstrate that humans are above animals and that the union between man and woman is to be strong as we are literally of the same flesh. But could Moses have been just a bit more straightforward

The whole bible could have been a little more straight forward, But then we would never have these discussion forums or our curiosity poked to go deeper.