riznich48 wrote:not trying to be rude but that post was not really helpful at all. i'm honestly trying to understand something here. telling me i'm not understanding it doesn't really help.
No, you are not rude...
Your answer is actually discovered by a personal honest investigation into God's character and nature and asking prayerful questions to him to explain things to you.
Too Begin: John 14:9 states what?
Now look at what John 6:64 is revealing in light of your original question: "
But there are some of you who do not believe." For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were who did not believe, and who would betray Him." NKJV
What does it tell you in regard to your original question?
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PS -- Lastly, why am I being vague here?
Answer: Due the nature of the question you asked is in regards to the Arminian - Calvinist debate. This opens a can of worms. This has been discussed many times before on this Forum causing many to become offended. So a vague answer used by the Lord can and will avoid this offending. How - By causing people to think through what they have been taught, disregarding the bad and holding fast the good.
So, with trepidation, I'll post a few links for you...
The Link below places differences using a bullet point comparison:
http://christianity.about.com/od/denomi ... minian.htm
The Link below is probably the best Calvinist take on this matter from the Calvinist camp in a well thought out discourse:
http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/2 ... free-will/
The Link below is from William Lane Craig on this very matter
http://www.reasonablefaith.org/molinism-vs-calvinism
After reading these articles, in regard to your question John 14:9 says what and John 6:64 states what in light of your original question?
What do these verses tell you in regard to your original question?
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