"The heavens declare the glory of God; the skies proclaim the work of his hands." (Psalm 19:1)
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Yes, being that astute theologian and knowledgeable creationist that General Maximus is not. However, an astute and loyal soldier in promoting the film, he is - visits the pope and Ken's men walking with dinosaurs exhibit. Great photo-ops - although the Pope didn't exactly play the studio's game.On another note, Russell Crowe went to Ken Ham's creation museum. Crowe said the museum was an insult to Christians and to God.
Didn't anyone tell Eve not to end a sentence with a preposition?!?!?!?Philip wrote:Yes, being that astute theologian and knowledgeable creationist that General Maximus is not. However, an astute and loyal soldier in promoting the film, he is - visits the pope and Ken's men walking with dinosaurs exhibit. Great photo-ops - although the Pope didn't exactly play the studio's game.On another note, Russell Crowe went to Ken Ham's creation museum. Crowe said the museum was an insult to Christians and to God.
But, apparently, Adam was too busying being used to floss Barney's teeth!I agree. Hollywood just isn't going to put out a product about God's righteous judgement against sinful man, and how He sometimes has enacted severe yet just punishments. Hollywood wants to get Christians' bucks while staying just ambiguous and vague enough to pull in a mass secular audience. Despite some minor things, Mel Gibson's "The Passion of Christ" is about the most realistic, faith-based movie I've ever seen. I could scarcely watch it, and probably never will again. But I'm glad he made it and I'm glad I at least watched it once. On second thought, I may ask my boys to watch it with me sometime - I think they should have a better idea of the cost of their salvation.All banter aside, if Ken Ham's review is accurate, I'd have to agree with him(Ham). If that movie butchered Noah's character half as badly as Ham says, there'll be a backlash.
I have put in bold all the parts that I think are troubling, the vitriol coming from him is just astounding, I mean you can disagree with something without alienating, attacking and calling people names, where is the love and compassion of Christ in his words, where is the humbleness."Friends, last night I watched the Hollywood (Paramount) movie Noah. It is much, much worse than I thought it would be - much worse. The director of the movie, Darren Aronofsky, has been quoted in the media as saying that Noah is 'the least biblical biblical film ever made,' and I agree wholeheartedly with him. I am disgusted. I am going to come right out and say it: this movie is disgusting and evil --- paganism!
Do you really want your family to see a pagan movie that portrays Noah as a psychopath who says that if his daughter-in-law's baby is a girl then he will kill her as soon as she's born? And when two girls are born, bloodstained Noah (the man the Bible calls 'righteous' in Genesis 7:1) brings a knife down to the head of one of the babies to kill her-and at the last minute doesn't do it. And then a bit later, Noah says he failed because he didn't kill the babies. How can we recommend this movie and then speak against abortion? Psychopathic Noah sees humans as a blight on the planet and wants to rid the world of people. ... Oh, and it is also a boring movie-yes, boring! Worst movie I think I've ever seen.
The movie begins with (and also states later on), 'In there beginning there was nothing.' However, the Bible states, 'In the beginning God' (Genesis 1:1). That really sums up the difference! ... I feel dirty-as if I have to somehow wash the evil off myself. I cannot believe there are Christian leaders who have recommended that people see this movie." ~ Ken Ham, Answers In Genesis
Exactly Ivellious, I already expected the to be liberties taken, it was never meant to be a Christian movie.Ivellious wrote:I feel like I have to ask, what did anyone expect from this movie that makes them so upset that the film includes "artistic liberties" to make it more appealing to the audience? After all, if the film actually followed the biblical story verbatim, with no alterations or additions, it would be a dreadfully boring movie with dull (if not totally nonexistent) characters, and most of the film would involve literally nothing more than some people building a big boat...Either that or the whole film would be 15 minutes long.
I can't imagine even the most diehard Christian movie fans getting excited for a movie that followed the biblical story without any liberties taken.
Many of the people who will have absolutely no problems with any supposed Biblical inaccuracies probably view the REAL story to be only fiction, to begin with. And even IF they believe in God, they probably don't believe that He would wipe out all but one family in all of humanity. Such people have a PC image of God - that He's all and ONLY about love, and surely wouldn't do such a thing as in Noah's ark story.Exactly Ivellious, I already expected the to be liberties taken, it was never meant to be a Christian movie.
People are up in arms for absolutely no reason, nothing to see here folks.
I'm speaking on the assumption that this quote is accurate.The director of the movie, Darren Aronofsky, has been quoted in the media as saying that Noah is 'the least biblical biblical film ever made,...
Daniel,Danieltwotwenty wrote:I actually can't wait to see it, I never expected an accurate portrayal of the story so I have no illusions of what it will be like.
I think it will be a good thing, even though it is not accurate, it still opens up dialogue between believers and non-believers which is all ways a good thing.
Ken Ham is at his usual best, trying to spread fear, the persecution complex and dare I say hatred.
When he comes out and says:
I have put in bold all the parts that I think are troubling, the vitriol coming from him is just astounding, I mean you can disagree with something without alienating, attacking and calling people names, where is the love and compassion of Christ in his words, where is the humbleness."Friends, last night I watched the Hollywood (Paramount) movie Noah. It is much, much worse than I thought it would be - much worse. The director of the movie, Darren Aronofsky, has been quoted in the media as saying that Noah is 'the least biblical biblical film ever made,' and I agree wholeheartedly with him. I am disgusted. I am going to come right out and say it: this movie is disgusting and evil --- paganism!
Do you really want your family to see a pagan movie that portrays Noah as a psychopath who says that if his daughter-in-law's baby is a girl then he will kill her as soon as she's born? And when two girls are born, bloodstained Noah (the man the Bible calls 'righteous' in Genesis 7:1) brings a knife down to the head of one of the babies to kill her-and at the last minute doesn't do it. And then a bit later, Noah says he failed because he didn't kill the babies. How can we recommend this movie and then speak against abortion? Psychopathic Noah sees humans as a blight on the planet and wants to rid the world of people. ... Oh, and it is also a boring movie-yes, boring! Worst movie I think I've ever seen.
The movie begins with (and also states later on), 'In there beginning there was nothing.' However, the Bible states, 'In the beginning God' (Genesis 1:1). That really sums up the difference! ... I feel dirty-as if I have to somehow wash the evil off myself. I cannot believe there are Christian leaders who have recommended that people see this movie." ~ Ken Ham, Answers In Genesis
Philip wrote:Many of the people who will have absolutely no problems with any supposed Biblical inaccuracies probably view the REAL story to be only fiction, to begin with. And even IF they believe in God, they probably don't believe that He would wipe out all but one family in all of humanity. Such people have a PC image of God - that He's all and ONLY about love, and surely wouldn't do such a thing as in Noah's ark story.Exactly Ivellious, I already expected the to be liberties taken, it was never meant to be a Christian movie.
People are up in arms for absolutely no reason, nothing to see here folks.
The one thing I always think about is how hard it must have been for (pre-flood) Noah and his family to remain faithful to God amidst such horrible wickedness. And that Noah's faith was so great as to take on such an enormous task and such a long time commitment as building the ark must have been (I'm sure just scratching out a living was already nearly a full-time thing) - and obviously, against the (LONG-time) backdrop of those laughing and ridiculing him.
RickD wrote:Daniel,Danieltwotwenty wrote:I actually can't wait to see it, I never expected an accurate portrayal of the story so I have no illusions of what it will be like.
I think it will be a good thing, even though it is not accurate, it still opens up dialogue between believers and non-believers which is all ways a good thing.
Ken Ham is at his usual best, trying to spread fear, the persecution complex and dare I say hatred.
When he comes out and says:
I have put in bold all the parts that I think are troubling, the vitriol coming from him is just astounding, I mean you can disagree with something without alienating, attacking and calling people names, where is the love and compassion of Christ in his words, where is the humbleness."Friends, last night I watched the Hollywood (Paramount) movie Noah. It is much, much worse than I thought it would be - much worse. The director of the movie, Darren Aronofsky, has been quoted in the media as saying that Noah is 'the least biblical biblical film ever made,' and I agree wholeheartedly with him. I am disgusted. I am going to come right out and say it: this movie is disgusting and evil --- paganism!
Do you really want your family to see a pagan movie that portrays Noah as a psychopath who says that if his daughter-in-law's baby is a girl then he will kill her as soon as she's born? And when two girls are born, bloodstained Noah (the man the Bible calls 'righteous' in Genesis 7:1) brings a knife down to the head of one of the babies to kill her-and at the last minute doesn't do it. And then a bit later, Noah says he failed because he didn't kill the babies. How can we recommend this movie and then speak against abortion? Psychopathic Noah sees humans as a blight on the planet and wants to rid the world of people. ... Oh, and it is also a boring movie-yes, boring! Worst movie I think I've ever seen.
The movie begins with (and also states later on), 'In there beginning there was nothing.' However, the Bible states, 'In the beginning God' (Genesis 1:1). That really sums up the difference! ... I feel dirty-as if I have to somehow wash the evil off myself. I cannot believe there are Christian leaders who have recommended that people see this movie." ~ Ken Ham, Answers In Genesis
I reread the article, and I missed where Ken Ham was calling people names. In fact, I didn't even see any attacking.
The more I read this, the more I agree with Ham on this one.
If the filmmaker wants to twist scripture to make a movie he profits off of, he deserves all the backlash he gets.
