Evidence for God from Science

What does the word "Theory" mean in the phrase "Theory of Evoloution?"
A scientific theory is a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world that is acquired through the scientific method, and repeatedly confirmed through observation and experimentation.
How long ago was the universe created?
that depends on whom you ask. According to evolution, about 13.7 billion years ago
Is there scientific evidence it was created billions of years ago?
yes
Is it possible God used The Big Bang to create the universe?
yes, that's possible
Are beliefs in Christianity and Evoloution possibly compatable?
yes

RickD wrote:What does the word "Theory" mean in the phrase "Theory of Evoloution?"
A scientific theory is a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world that is acquired through the scientific method, and repeatedly confirmed through observation and experimentation.
How long ago was the universe created?
that depends on whom you ask. According to evolution, about 13.7 billion years ago
Is there scientific evidence it was created billions of years ago?
yes
Is it possible God used The Big Bang to create the universe?
yes, that's possible
Are beliefs in Christianity and Evoloution possibly compatable?
yes

A board moderator agrees with me all down the line. Great minds think alike.

Ultimate777 wrote:
A board moderator agrees with me all down the line. Great minds think alike.

Actually Ultimate, the entire quote reads:

"Great minds think alike, and fools seldom differ".

RickD wrote:

Ultimate777 wrote:
A board moderator agrees with me all down the line. Great minds think alike.

Actually Ultimate, the entire quote reads:

"Great minds think alike, and fools seldom differ".

How anyone can say evolution and Christianity are compatible is beyond me.

How is evolution "in the image of God"? Are we really saying God is equivalent to an amoeba or and other creature that we supposedly evolved from....
How is the cruel, heartless process of evolution in any way compatible with God?
God called creation "very good" - is a wasp that lays it's eggs a live spider - and then eat their way out of the still alive creature - very good?

Why anyone still holds to the outdated and stale theories of evolution is astounding. It was a house of cards (even Darwin admitted this) when the theory was first put forward and it's even more so today.

Stu wrote:
How anyone can say evolution and Christianity are compatible is beyond me.

Stu,

Evolution simply means, "change over time". There are different kinds of evolution. Some have actually been observed.

How is evolution "in the image of God"? Are we really saying God is equivalent to an amoeba or and other creature that we supposedly evolved from....
How is the cruel, heartless process of evolution in any way compatible with God?

Let's take stellar evolution for example. If stellar evolution wasn't true, earth wouldn't exist. That's pretty "compatible" with God, isn't it?

God called creation "very good" - is a wasp that lays it's eggs a live spider - and then eat their way out of the still alive creature - very good?

Are you saying animals that kill other animals for food are immoral?

Why anyone still holds to the outdated and stale theories of evolution is astounding. It was a house of cards (even Darwin admitted this) when the theory was first put forward and it's even more so today.

I think you're making a mistake by equating Darwinian evolution with all evolution. Again, evolution simply means change over time.

Stu wrote:How anyone can say evolution and Christianity are compatible is beyond me.

How is evolution "in the image of God"? Are we really saying God is equivalent to an amoeba or and other creature that we supposedly evolved from....
How is the cruel, heartless process of evolution in any way compatible with God?
God called creation "very good" - is a wasp that lays it's eggs a live spider - and then eat their way out of the still alive creature - very good?

Why anyone still holds to the outdated and stale theories of evolution is astounding. It was a house of cards (even Darwin admitted this) when the theory was first put forward and it's even more so today.

I happen to be the miserable fool who sees evolution at work.

I do have one question for you... Does God have male organs? You would say yes, because Adam was in God's 'image'.

RickD wrote:

Stu wrote:
How anyone can say evolution and Christianity are compatible is beyond me.

Stu,

Evolution simply means, "change over time". There are different kinds of evolution. Some have actually been observed.

How is evolution "in the image of God"? Are we really saying God is equivalent to an amoeba or and other creature that we supposedly evolved from....
How is the cruel, heartless process of evolution in any way compatible with God?

Let's take stellar evolution for example. If stellar evolution wasn't true, earth wouldn't exist. That's pretty "compatible" with God, isn't it?

God called creation "very good" - is a wasp that lays it's eggs a live spider - and then eat their way out of the still alive creature - very good?

Are you saying animals that kill other animals for food are immoral?

Why anyone still holds to the outdated and stale theories of evolution is astounding. It was a house of cards (even Darwin admitted this) when the theory was first put forward and it's even more so today.

I think you're making a mistake by equating Darwinian evolution with all evolution. Again, evolution simply means change over time.

Yeah I get that, I was specifically referring to Gradualism and Punctuated Equilibrium.

Are you saying animals that kill other animals for food are immoral?

No, I was referring to God's words "very good". Equating "very good" with pain and suffering.

neo-x wrote:

Stu wrote:How anyone can say evolution and Christianity are compatible is beyond me.

How is evolution "in the image of God"? Are we really saying God is equivalent to an amoeba or and other creature that we supposedly evolved from....
How is the cruel, heartless process of evolution in any way compatible with God?
God called creation "very good" - is a wasp that lays it's eggs a live spider - and then eat their way out of the still alive creature - very good?

Why anyone still holds to the outdated and stale theories of evolution is astounding. It was a house of cards (even Darwin admitted this) when the theory was first put forward and it's even more so today.

I happen to be the miserable fool who sees evolution at work.

I do have one question for you... Does God have male organs? You would say yes, because Adam was in God's 'image'.

In God's image doesn't mean exactly like God, just in His image.

Stu wrote:

neo-x wrote:

Stu wrote:How anyone can say evolution and Christianity are compatible is beyond me.

How is evolution "in the image of God"? Are we really saying God is equivalent to an amoeba or and other creature that we supposedly evolved from....
How is the cruel, heartless process of evolution in any way compatible with God?
God called creation "very good" - is a wasp that lays it's eggs a live spider - and then eat their way out of the still alive creature - very good?

Why anyone still holds to the outdated and stale theories of evolution is astounding. It was a house of cards (even Darwin admitted this) when the theory was first put forward and it's even more so today.

I happen to be the miserable fool who sees evolution at work.

I do have one question for you... Does God have male organs? You would say yes, because Adam was in God's 'image'.

In God's image doesn't mean exactly like God, just in His image.

What is God's image?

ultimate777 wrote:

RickD wrote:What does the word "Theory" mean in the phrase "Theory of Evoloution?"
A scientific theory is a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world that is acquired through the scientific method, and repeatedly confirmed through observation and experimentation.
How long ago was the universe created?
that depends on whom you ask. According to evolution, about 13.7 billion years ago
Is there scientific evidence it was created billions of years ago?
yes
Is it possible God used The Big Bang to create the universe?
yes, that's possible
Are beliefs in Christianity and Evoloution possibly compatable?
yes

A board moderator agrees with me all down the line. Great minds think alike.

Neither the fact of evolution nor the theory of evolution says the universe is 13.7 billion years old. Astrophysics/cosmology estimates the universe's age.

Morny wrote:

ultimate777 wrote:

RickD wrote:What does the word "Theory" mean in the phrase "Theory of Evoloution?"
A scientific theory is a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world that is acquired through the scientific method, and repeatedly confirmed through observation and experimentation.
How long ago was the universe created?
that depends on whom you ask. According to evolution, about 13.7 billion years ago
Is there scientific evidence it was created billions of years ago?
yes
Is it possible God used The Big Bang to create the universe?
yes, that's possible
Are beliefs in Christianity and Evoloution possibly compatable?
yes

A board moderator agrees with me all down the line. Great minds think alike.

Neither the fact of evolution nor the theory of evolution says the universe is 13.7 billion years old. Astrophysics/cosmology estimates the universe's age.

In general, Stellar evolutionists(see the word evolution there?) find the age of the universe to be 13.7 billion years old.

And actually, they would probably say that age is not an estimate, but pretty darn close.

RickD wrote:

Morny wrote:Neither the fact of evolution nor the theory of evolution says the universe is 13.7 billion years old. Astrophysics/cosmology estimates the universe's age.

In general, Stellar evolutionists(see the word evolution there?) find the age of the universe to be 13.7 billion years old.

Thank you for correcting your statement to say _stellar_ evolution. Evolution and stellar evolution are different areas of scientific research.

RickD wrote:And actually, they would probably say that age is not an estimate, but pretty darn close.

Another typo, viz., using "not" instead of "just"? No scientist would say that the age is _not_ an estimate.

Morny wrote:
Thank you for correcting your statement to say _stellar_ evolution. Evolution and stellar evolution are different areas of scientific research.

I didn't correct my statement. I just specified what type of evolution I was referring to. Stellar evolution is a kind of evolution. Certainly you don't need me to explain that.

Another typo, viz., using "not" instead of "just"? No scientist would say that the age is _not_ an estimate.

Morny,

All I'm saying is that The Universe is Precisely 13.75 Billion Years Old. The age determined by precise measurements. What I mean by it not being an estimate, it's that it's not "an approximate calculation". It's a very precise calculation.