Evidence for God from Science

Here is a question - if there is in fact a multiverse and there are an infinite amount of universes (we will ignore the BVG for a moment) does that mean that the Onotological Argument is in fact stronger and therefore inescapable that God exists?

Is it even possible to have an infinite number of any thing?

RickD wrote:Is it even possible to have an infinite number of any thing?

I don't know- Hilbert would think not - but if there was an infinite worlds - then God would exist - and since he is by definition the maximum in all attributes - then he would be omnipresent in all worlds. Hence God exists.

Oh ok. We're playing the hypothetical game. In that case, I'm a rich prince with a harem of an infinite number of beautiful wives.

Oh wait...
An infinite number of women living together, means they would eventually be on the same cycle. Which means an infinite amount of pms at the same time!

That's worse than hell!

We do live in a "multi-universe".
Our Universe as we know it.
The Heavenly "universe" of God and His angels.
"Hell".

It is hypothetical - but I think the logic is sound. An infinite universes would mean that there must be a deity like God existing in one of them - and if he does then he exists in all of them.

So all I am saying - Hypothetically - is if there is an infinite multiverse without a beginning (impossible) then God still exists because of the ontological argument.

The question I am asking is - is this line of reasoning sound?

Silvertusk wrote:It is hypothetical - but I think the logic is sound. An infinite universes would mean that there must be a deity like God existing in one of them - and if he does then he exists in all of them.

So all I am saying - Hypothetically - is if there is an infinite multiverse without a beginning (impossible) then God still exists because of the ontological argument.

The question I am asking is - is this line of reasoning sound?

It's about as sound as a 4 sided triangle. Unless you can prove any thing can be infinite.

RickD wrote:Is it even possible to have an infinite number of any thing?

If it were measured in days, how many days is Gods total lifespan, from birth to to death?

Seraph wrote:

RickD wrote:Is it even possible to have an infinite number of any thing?

If it were measured in days, how many days is Gods total lifespan, from birth to to death?

I said any thing. God is not a thing. Numbers are infinite also. But they're not things.

Silvertusk wrote:It is hypothetical - but I think the logic is sound. An infinite universes would mean that there must be a deity like God existing in one of them - and if he does then he exists in all of them.

So all I am saying - Hypothetically - is if there is an infinite multiverse without a beginning (impossible) then God still exists because of the ontological argument.

The question I am asking is - is this line of reasoning sound?

Well, it depends on your definition of universe.
u·ni·verse
ˈyo͞onəˌvərs/Submit
noun
all existing matter and space considered as a whole; the cosmos.

In other words, ALL the exists in the universe so "multi-universes" would me there would be multiple "all existent matter and space".
I think that we have different dimensions and "realities" but they all exist in the same universe ( if we go by the above definition of universe).

I think when scientists postulate a multiple universe reality what they are really doing is postulating multiple realities or dimensions in time and space BUT if the universe is ALL there is then they would exist in the same universe.

RickD wrote:

Silvertusk wrote:It is hypothetical - but I think the logic is sound. An infinite universes would mean that there must be a deity like God existing in one of them - and if he does then he exists in all of them.

So all I am saying - Hypothetically - is if there is an infinite multiverse without a beginning (impossible) then God still exists because of the ontological argument.

The question I am asking is - is this line of reasoning sound?

It's about as sound as a 4 sided triangle. Unless you can prove any thing can be infinite.

It is a hypothetical question - work with me here.

RickD wrote:

Seraph wrote:

RickD wrote:Is it even possible to have an infinite number of any thing?

If it were measured in days, how many days is Gods total lifespan, from birth to to death?

I said any thing. God is not a thing. Numbers are infinite also. But they're not things.

Chuck Norris counted to infinity, twice.

Just saying.

RickD wrote:

Seraph wrote:

RickD wrote:Is it even possible to have an infinite number of any thing?

If it were measured in days, how many days is Gods total lifespan, from birth to to death?

I said any thing. God is not a thing. Numbers are infinite also. But they're not things.

Why not? He's an existing entity, if infinity can apply to him, it can apply to any hypothetical first cause.

Silvertusk wrote:

RickD wrote:

Silvertusk wrote:It is hypothetical - but I think the logic is sound. An infinite universes would mean that there must be a deity like God existing in one of them - and if he does then he exists in all of them.

So all I am saying - Hypothetically - is if there is an infinite multiverse without a beginning (impossible) then God still exists because of the ontological argument.

The question I am asking is - is this line of reasoning sound?

It's about as sound as a 4 sided triangle. Unless you can prove any thing can be infinite.

It is a hypothetical question - work with me here.

Ok. Let's assume infinite universes. Can God create any thing infinite? Isn't that some kind of contradiction to who God is?

So hypothetically, if there are infinite universes, then God cannot exist.

Does that make any sense?

The multiverse idea is usually invoked as an alternative to a Creator, so yeah, in the scenario of a multiverse God may well not exist. If he doesn't exist, the multiverse can well be infinite and not need to be compatible with necessary characteristics of a reality where God exists.