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Bodies of three kidnapped Israeli teens found in West Bank

Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2014 7:40 pm
by Gman
Please pray for Israel and the families who lost their loved ones.. y@};-

They were actually dead many days ago...

"Security forces find bodies outside Hebron in Beit Kahil region on 18th day of search; Shin Bet believes boys were killed shortly after abduction. After more than two weeks of agonizing, intensive searches in the West Bank, the military operation launched to locate teenagers Gil-Ad Shaer, Naftali Fraenkel, and Eyal Yifrah reached a tragic end Monday afternoon when security forces discovered their bodies buried in a field northwest of Hebron, no more than a 10-15-minute drive from where they were abducted."

http://www.jpost.com/Operation-Brothers ... ens-361048

Re: Bodies of three kidnapped Israeli teens found in West Ba

Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 3:07 am
by neo-x
Such sad loss of life. Had there been no strife, these precious people would still be alive...and you accused me of "showing my true colors", it is this exactly, such spilling of blood is what I am against, whether that be Palestinian teenagers or Israeli.

Re: Bodies of three kidnapped Israeli teens found in West Ba

Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 5:06 pm
by Gman
neo-x wrote:Such sad loss of life. Had there been no strife, these precious people would still be alive...and you accused me of "showing my true colors",
Yes you are showing your true colors again if you say "if there had been no strife" from Israel. Again you have no grounds to make such an accusation..

Re: Bodies of three kidnapped Israeli teens found in West Ba

Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 8:30 pm
by 1over137
Gman wrote:
neo-x wrote:Such sad loss of life. Had there been no strife, these precious people would still be alive...and you accused me of "showing my true colors",
Yes you are showing your true colors again if you say "if there had been no strife" from Israel. Again you have no grounds to make such an accusation..
Gman, I think you are reading more into neo's post than he intended. No strife is good. Period.

Re: Bodies of three kidnapped Israeli teens found in West Ba

Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 8:51 pm
by neo-x
What exactly does this mean Gman, "my true colors"?

Re: Bodies of three kidnapped Israeli teens found in West Ba

Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 8:52 pm
by Gman
1over137 wrote: Gman, I think you are reading more into neo's post than he intended. No strife is good. Period.
I completely disagree.. If our strife is against evil, then who is to say that is wrong? The Bible also commands us to hate what is evil..

Romans 12:9 Love must be sincere. Hate what is evil; cling to what is good.

Also we serve a G-d of wrath..

Romans 1:18 The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of people, who suppress the truth by their wickedness,

Re: Bodies of three kidnapped Israeli teens found in West Ba

Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 8:54 pm
by Gman
neo-x wrote:What exactly does this mean Gman, "my true colors"?
Are you reading what you write?

Re: Bodies of three kidnapped Israeli teens found in West Ba

Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 9:12 pm
by 1over137
Gman wrote:
1over137 wrote: Gman, I think you are reading more into neo's post than he intended. No strife is good. Period.
I completely disagree.. If our strife is against evil, then who is to say that is wrong? The Bible also commands us to hate what is evil..

Romans 12:9 Love must be sincere. Hate what is evil; cling to what is good.

Also we serve a G-d of wrath..

Romans 1:18 The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of people, who suppress the truth by their wickedness,
Ok, strife against evil.

God is the ultimate judge.

Re: Bodies of three kidnapped Israeli teens found in West Ba

Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 9:14 pm
by 1over137
Gman wrote:
neo-x wrote:What exactly does this mean Gman, "my true colors"?
Are you reading what you write?
Anyway, I still think Gman, you are assuming something neo have not intended.

Re: Bodies of three kidnapped Israeli teens found in West Ba

Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 9:26 pm
by neo-x
Gman wrote:
neo-x wrote:What exactly does this mean Gman, "my true colors"?
Are you reading what you write?
You are accusing me of God knows what, so I want you to put it into exact words. Except that it means something really bad, I am not sure what you are talking about.

Re: Bodies of three kidnapped Israeli teens found in West Ba

Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 9:31 pm
by Gman
1over137 wrote: Ok, strife against evil.

God is the ultimate judge.
Yes. God is the ultimate Judge, but we are still expected to judge ourselves in the right spirit. We however should not condemn anyone.

Re: Bodies of three kidnapped Israeli teens found in West Ba

Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 9:46 pm
by Gman
neo-x wrote:
You are accusing me of God knows what, so I want you to put it into exact words. Except that it means something really bad, I am not sure what you are talking about.
Read what you wrote here that no land is eternal, any more than any man is..

http://discussions.godandscience.org/vi ... 30#p157371

The Bible clearly states that God gave land grants and the title to Israel through Jacob that have never been revoked (Genesis 15:18-21; 17:7-8; 18; 28:13-15, 1 Chronicles 16:15-18, Psalm 105:9-11, Jeremiah 31:35-37). Israel will also always be in the pupil of G-d’s eye (Deuteronomy 11:12; 32:9-10; Zech 2:8).

Re: Bodies of three kidnapped Israeli teens found in West Ba

Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 10:04 pm
by neo-x
Gman wrote:
neo-x wrote:
You are accusing me of God knows what, so I want you to put it into exact words. Except that it means something really bad, I am not sure what you are talking about.
Read what you wrote here that no land is eternal, any more than any man is..

http://discussions.godandscience.org/vi ... 30#p157371

The Bible clearly states that God gave land grants and the title to Israel through Jacob that have never been revoked (Genesis 15:18-21; 17:7-8; 18; 28:13-15, 1 Chronicles 16:15-18, Psalm 105:9-11, Jeremiah 31:35-37). Israel will also always be in the pupil of G-d’s eye (Deuteronomy 11:12; 32:9-10; Zech 2:8).
And how does this translate to "your true colors" I know what I wrote, I don't know what you have in mind. It look like you are hesitating in spelling it out. Please be clear and write what you mean, what are these colors you talk about, what do they represent?

Re: Bodies of three kidnapped Israeli teens found in West Ba

Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 10:17 pm
by Gman
neo-x wrote:
And how does this translate to "your true colors" I know what I wrote, I don't know what you have in mind. It look like you are hesitating in spelling it out. Please be clear and write what you mean, what are these colors you talk about, what do they represent?
Maybe you could explain it.. Are you reading what I said before? I stated.. "Yes you are showing your true colors again IF you say "if there had been no strife" from Israel." I said "IF" you say that these boys died on the account of Israel, then yes, you are showing your true colors, IF you are saying that Israel killed these boys and not the terrorists. So which is it??

Also when I posted this I had no intentions of making this into a debate neo.. I just wanted this to be a prayer for those kids.. Maybe you are taking this too personally.

Re: Bodies of three kidnapped Israeli teens found in West Ba

Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 11:10 pm
by neo-x
Gman wrote:
neo-x wrote:
And how does this translate to "your true colors" I know what I wrote, I don't know what you have in mind. It look like you are hesitating in spelling it out. Please be clear and write what you mean, what are these colors you talk about, what do they represent?
Maybe you could explain it.. Are you reading what I said before? I stated.. "Yes you are showing your true colors again IF you say "if there had been no strife" from Israel." I said "IF" you say that these boys died on the account of Israel, then yes, you are showing your true colors, IF you are saying that Israel killed these boys and not the terrorists. So which is it??

Also when I posted this I had no intentions of making this into a debate neo.. I just wanted this to be a prayer for those kids.. Maybe you are taking this too personally.
I am as much saddened by their deaths as you are. So please don't assume otherwise.

And you did put out an insult Gman, how do you expect me to react? I am only asking you to clarify what do call someone who shows his "true colors"? What motivations does a person like me has which has raised red flags to you enough that you accuse me of being someone I am not?

Let me make it easy for you, for example, are you calling me antisemitic?