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Science and theology

Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 6:02 pm
by kowalskil
Some of you might be interested in extracts from a theological presentation--of a Russian Orthodox priest--that I just posted at:


http://pages.csam.montclair.edu/~kowalski/sysoev.html

Comments will be appreciated,

Ludwik

Re: Science and theology

Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 3:26 am
by 1over137
And what about the times when people thought that sun moves around our planet?

Re: Science and theology

Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 4:57 am
by PaulSacramento
1over137 wrote:And what about the times when people thought that sun moves around our planet?
See, that was a scientific fact for those days.
Science is about observation and experimentation and in those days, it was observed that the sun moved around the planet.
Later on of course it was proven that it was the Earth rotating BUT the science in those days was sound.

There is a lesson there of course for modern scientists.

Re: Science and theology

Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 5:22 am
by 1over137
PaulSacramento wrote:
1over137 wrote:And what about the times when people thought that sun moves around our planet?
See, that was a scientific fact for those days.
Science is about observation and experimentation and in those days, it was observed that the sun moved around the planet.
Later on of course it was proven that it was the Earth rotating BUT the science in those days was sound.

There is a lesson there of course for modern scientists.
But scientists emerged (Galilei, Bruno), saying that in fact earth moves around the sun. And what catholics did? Claimed they are heretics. Bruno was killed, Galilei put to home prison.

Re: Science and theology

Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 11:19 am
by PaulSacramento
1over137 wrote:
PaulSacramento wrote:
1over137 wrote:And what about the times when people thought that sun moves around our planet?
See, that was a scientific fact for those days.
Science is about observation and experimentation and in those days, it was observed that the sun moved around the planet.
Later on of course it was proven that it was the Earth rotating BUT the science in those days was sound.

There is a lesson there of course for modern scientists.
But scientists emerged (Galilei, Bruno), saying that in fact earth moves around the sun. And what catholics did? Claimed they are heretics. Bruno was killed, Galilei put to home prison.
You are kidding right?
You do realize that Galileo was put on house arrest NOT because of his theories ( and that is all he had, no proof yet) but because he insulted and ridiculed the Pope when it was the Church that was his biggets supporter.
Both were Catholics by the way and Bruno was killed NOT because of his scientific views but because he was a Dominican and denied the trinity, Christ's divinity, Mary virginity and he was a Pantheist.
He was found guilty during the inquisition and burned at the stake.
I think it is important to remember that the church has always been pro science and that some of the greatest scientists of the past were even priests.

Re: Science and theology

Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 11:28 am
by 1over137
I need vacation.

Re: Science and theology

Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 12:06 pm
by PaulSacramento
1over137 wrote:I need vacation.
Don't we all !
LOL !

Re: Science and theology

Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 12:09 pm
by PaulSacramento
There is one think I have learned and that is to always investigate any story as best we can.
Here is a very good read:
Galileo Goes to Jail and Other Myths about Science and Religion Hardcover – April 30, 2009