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Collateral damage

Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 8:31 am
by stuartcr
Why is collateral damage acceptable?

Re: Collateral damage

Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 8:38 am
by RickD
stuartcr wrote:Why is collateral damage acceptable?
Regarding what?

Re: Collateral damage

Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 9:53 am
by stuartcr
Wars

Re: Collateral damage

Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 10:16 am
by RickD
Maybe for those it's acceptable to, the end justifies the means.

Re: Collateral damage

Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 10:20 am
by PaulSacramento
It isn't acceptable.
It is a fact of war nevertheless.

Re: Collateral damage

Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 10:55 am
by stuartcr
A fact, like a natural disaster?

Re: Collateral damage

Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 11:06 am
by PaulSacramento
stuartcr wrote:A fact, like a natural disaster?
No, a fact of war, of battle.
There is no way around collateral damage in open warfare, humans make mistakes, machines make mistakes.
An enemy plane is shot down and lands on houses, a bobby trap is set off by a kid, a missile's GPS calibration is off and strikes a hospital.

Re: Collateral damage

Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 12:50 pm
by stuartcr
What about bombing from 20Kft? Many strikes are planned with an acceptable percentage of known collateral damage.

Are deaths by natural disasters considered acceptable?

Re: Collateral damage

Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 4:01 pm
by SeekingSanctuary
stuartcr wrote:What about bombing from 20Kft? Many strikes are planned with an acceptable percentage of known collateral damage.

Are deaths by natural disasters considered acceptable?
We are not in control of natural disasters. Acceptable does not matter.

A bombing, when it avoids a land invasion, is preferable. The other option tends to lead to far more deaths. Sometimes they may do a small scale operation with a few soldiers, but this is usually top secret like the raid on Bin Laden's compound. Typically the bombing is done in part because it minimizes collateral damage.

Re: Collateral damage

Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 4:18 pm
by Furstentum Liechtenstein
The term ''collateral damage'' is fairly recent, perhaps 10 or 20 years old at the most. Before that, people were smart enough to understand that war is awful for all involved.

FL yp**==

Re: Collateral damage

Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2014 5:03 am
by PaulSacramento
stuartcr wrote:What about bombing from 20Kft? Many strikes are planned with an acceptable percentage of known collateral damage.

Are deaths by natural disasters considered acceptable?
Death's via natural events are a part of life for people the live in areas prone to dangerous natural events.
Are they preventable? Perhaps, at least to some degree.
Are they acceptable?
To the people that live in Tornado alley for example, it seems so.

Re: Collateral damage

Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2014 8:19 am
by stuartcr
SeekingSanctuary wrote:
stuartcr wrote:What about bombing from 20Kft? Many strikes are planned with an acceptable percentage of known collateral damage.

Are deaths by natural disasters considered acceptable?
We are not in control of natural disasters. Acceptable does not matter.

A bombing, when it avoids a land invasion, is preferable. The other option tends to lead to far more deaths. Sometimes they may do a small scale operation with a few soldiers, but this is usually top secret like the raid on Bin Laden's compound. Typically the bombing is done in part because it minimizes collateral damage.
In wars, who figures out which side is the good side and that any deaths are preferable?

Re: Collateral damage

Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2014 8:29 am
by PaulSacramento
stuartcr wrote:
SeekingSanctuary wrote:
stuartcr wrote:What about bombing from 20Kft? Many strikes are planned with an acceptable percentage of known collateral damage.

Are deaths by natural disasters considered acceptable?
We are not in control of natural disasters. Acceptable does not matter.

A bombing, when it avoids a land invasion, is preferable. The other option tends to lead to far more deaths. Sometimes they may do a small scale operation with a few soldiers, but this is usually top secret like the raid on Bin Laden's compound. Typically the bombing is done in part because it minimizes collateral damage.
In wars, who figures out which side is the good side and that any deaths are preferable?
Everyone always thinks their side is right.

Re: Collateral damage

Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 7:57 am
by stuartcr
So how does God decide which side is guilty of killing innocents and which side is killing innocents just because it's a fact of war? Or does God even care when it comes to wars?

Re: Collateral damage

Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 8:14 am
by PaulSacramento
stuartcr wrote:So how does God decide which side is guilty of killing innocents and which side is killing innocents just because it's a fact of war? Or does God even care when it comes to wars?

God KNOWS WHY we do what we do, there is no hiding or misleading God. He KNOWS.