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OSAS
Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 9:17 pm
by OnceSaved
Once Saved, Always Saved
True or False?
What does the New Testament say?
2 Pet. 2:20-21, 1 Cor. 15:1-2, John 15:1-6, Rom. 11:22, Heb. 6:4-6, Rev. 2:10, Rom. 8:12-13, Heb. 3:14, 1 Tim. 1:19, Rev. 3:5, Luke 3:9, 2 Tim. 2:12, Heb. 10:26-27, 1 John 3:6
I personally do not believe that you're saved if you don't persevere till the end.
Re: OSAS
Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 2:58 am
by RickD
Your profile says you're not Christian, so what does it matter?
Re: OSAS
Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 6:11 am
by Byblos
RickD wrote:Your profile says you're not Christian, so what does it matter?
Well, he
was once saved so what does it matter what his status is now?
Re: OSAS
Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 6:19 am
by RickD
Byblos wrote:RickD wrote:Your profile says you're not Christian, so what does it matter?
Well, he
was once saved so what does it matter what his status is now?
Touché.
Re: OSAS
Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 10:44 am
by 1over137
There were many debates on OSAS on this board. Try the search.
Re: OSAS
Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 11:06 am
by Lonewolf
I call for a ban on any newbie that asks a question from Christians. Give them a happy response and ban them, that way they don't ask no more joke questions. Yeah, that's the spirit of Christianity, good job fellow Christians.
Re: OSAS
Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 12:10 pm
by 1over137
Re: OSAS
Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 12:20 pm
by 1over137
Re: OSAS
Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 12:34 pm
by PaulSacramento
Lonewolf wrote:I call for a ban on any newbie that asks a question from Christians. Give them a happy response and ban them, that way they don't ask no more joke questions. Yeah, that's the spirit of Christianity, good job fellow Christians.
There are question that are valid for an unbeliever to ask, questions about how one reconciles pain and suffering with an all-loving God, did Jesus really live and was He resurrected? things like that.
But when a non-believer asks a question based on doctrinal interpretation, like the "once saved, always saved", a question that is debated by theologians and has been for a very long time, one wonders WHY a non-believer would ask a question that even the TYPICAL believer doesn't ask...
Re: OSAS
Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 1:32 pm
by RickD
Lonewolf wrote:I call for a ban on any newbie that asks a question from Christians. Give them a happy response and ban them, that way they don't ask no more joke questions. Yeah, that's the spirit of Christianity, good job fellow Christians.
Lobosolitario,
Usted que necesita para relajarse.
Re: OSAS
Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 2:26 pm
by Furstentum Liechtenstein
Lonewolf wrote:I call for a ban on any newbie that asks a question from Christians. Give them a happy response and ban them, that way they don't ask no more joke questions. Yeah, that's the spirit of Christianity, good job fellow Christians.
Have you been eating
hamburgers tacos, burritos & empanadas made from mad cows?
FL
Re: OSAS
Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 3:26 pm
by Lonewolf
PaulSacramento wrote:Lonewolf wrote:I call for a ban on any newbie that asks a question from Christians. Give them a happy response and ban them, that way they don't ask no more joke questions. Yeah, that's the spirit of Christianity, good job fellow Christians.
There are question that are valid for an unbeliever to ask, questions about how one reconciles pain and suffering with an all-loving God, did Jesus really live and was He resurrected? things like that.
But when a non-believer asks a question based on doctrinal interpretation, like the "once saved, always saved", a question that is debated by theologians and has been for a very long time, one wonders WHY a non-believer would ask a question that even the TYPICAL believer doesn't ask...
Paul, it occurred to me that maybe Once Saved could be struggling with his faith. That's one thing. The second thing is that yes I'm sure just about all kinds of topics and questions have been debated and/or answered here, but I don't believe that a person who has been invited to the forum needs to be dismissed with such short answers, not even in a jokingly manner. For one, we really don't know the why of this person's questions and, are we to close the Bible book and say to people seeking answers, well, it has already been spoken of a million times already, so go read what was said before. I'm sorry but I'm not comfortable with neither position (1) jokingly dismiss someone, (2) send them elsewhere for answers.
Re: OSAS
Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 3:40 pm
by Lonewolf
RickD wrote:
Lobosolitario,
Usted que necesita para relajarse.
Rick Dee's, I need you to go back to attending the congregation, and maybe that way I can begin to relax.
10-4 on that buddy?
SOLOxLOBO
Re: OSAS
Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 5:05 pm
by RickD
Lonewolf,
Nobody said anything dismissive towards oncesaved. Did you misread something?
If you're talking about my back and forth with Byblos, it goes back to the many conversations we've had about osas. I believe in absolute assurance, Byblos doesn't. Byblos was actually joking with me.
Re: OSAS
Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 5:24 pm
by Lonewolf
RickD wrote:Lonewolf,
Nobody said anything dismissive towards oncesaved. Did you misread something?
If you're talking about my back and forth with Byblos, it goes back to the many conversations we've had about osas. I believe in absolute assurance, Byblos doesn't. Byblos was actually joking with me.
Alright, I see now where you two where coming from. For someone who does not have the long history in this forum, it may read differently, and that's where I was coming from.
Comprendes Mendez?