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Resurrection of jesus christ
Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2015 9:47 am
by perplexedsoul
hi,
Let me ask you few of my doubts. How come resurrection and assumption into heaven is possible. We know there is no oxygen after leaving the atmosphere. How come Jesus travelled through space and reached a place called heaven ?? Distance to the nearest star is 4•25 Light yrs. Heaven is known to be a place situated out of the universe. Is it possible to travel through dark matter and star dust. Same case with mary. Possible chances are both of them are fictional characters as they left no evidence on earth other than bible. No hostorical proof is there. But personally i beliece in the Existence of jesus as a deity becase i felt his presence.
Re: Resurrection of jesus christ
Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2015 12:43 pm
by 1over137
Maybe Jesus went to extra dimension
And welcome to the forum.
Re: Resurrection of jesus christ
Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2015 1:06 pm
by Storyteller
Outside of our physical universe would be different.
As for no historical proof? What about the shroud?
Welcome from me too
Re: Resurrection of jesus christ
Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2015 2:17 pm
by abelcainsbrother
You mentioned dark matter. Could you tell me how this was in the bible thousands of years ago and long before science discovered it?Isaiah 50:3" I clothe the heavens with blackness,and I make sackcloth their covering." Dark Matter was known about and it was in the bible the whole time,long before science knew about it.
Re: Resurrection of jesus christ
Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2015 2:41 pm
by abelcainsbrother
Oh!You mentioned star dust also.Don't you remember it tells us in Genesis God picked up dust from the ground and formed man?Do you believe this was star dust?
Re: Resurrection of jesus christ
Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2015 4:10 pm
by EssentialSacrifice
OK then, well... wait......
welcome to the forum
Re: Resurrection of jesus christ
Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2015 9:38 pm
by perplexedsoul
If we believe bible is a book of truth, we go and find proof from some 'words'. We can find such proof from comics too. But the question is about, tje reality. There is no proof for moving into another dimension, as all dimensions together makes an existence
Re: Resurrection of jesus christ
Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2015 9:40 pm
by perplexedsoul
there is no proof for shroud too.It can be of any man
Re: Resurrection of jesus christ
Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2015 11:51 pm
by Silvertusk
perplexedsoul wrote:there is no proof for shroud too.It can be of any man
Umm I suggest you might want to read this thread
http://discussions.godandscience.org/vi ... ?f=6&t=225
And then come back and request that this post be deleted.
Warning - It is a long one but worth the read. All credit goes to Bippy our resident Shroud expert. I will try and hold him back from ripping into you until you have read some of it. Although no promises.
Re: Resurrection of jesus christ
Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2015 11:55 pm
by perplexedsoul
Sorry, lets keep the thread alive. Its about resurrection and assumption into heaven. Not about of historical proof. Assumption of both Mary and Jesus into heaven.
Re: Resurrection of jesus christ
Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 12:59 am
by Nicki
'With God, everything is possible.' God can do anything and sometimes he does the miraculous. Things don't usually appear out of nowhere as when the universe came into being; people don't usually walk on water; disabled people don't usually instantly get healed. But God would not be much of a God to me if he couldn't make these things, as well as Jesus rising from the dead and returning to heaven, happen when he chose. Jesus had a glorified body when he rose which probably had no need of oxygen or anything else - he could eat food but maybe he didn't need to.
Edit - did Mary go straight to heaven as well? Don't remember anything about that.
Re: Resurrection of jesus christ
Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 1:32 am
by Silvertusk
Nicki wrote:'With God, everything is possible.' God can do anything and sometimes he does the miraculous. Things don't usually appear out of nowhere as when the universe came into being; people don't usually walk on water; disabled people don't usually instantly get healed. But God would not be much of a God to me if he couldn't make these things, as well as Jesus rising from the dead and returning to heaven, happen when he chose. Jesus had a glorified body when he rose which probably had no need of oxygen or anything else - he could eat food but maybe he didn't need to.
Edit - did Mary go straight to heaven as well? Don't remember anything about that.
The Mary going to heaven is a Catholic thing.
Re: Resurrection of jesus christ
Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 2:55 am
by Storyteller
perplexedsoul wrote:Sorry, lets keep the thread alive. Its about resurrection and assumption into heaven. Not about of historical proof. Assumption of both Mary and Jesus into heaven.
But you mentioned the historical proof!
So, what exactly are you asking? Do we believe Jesus was resurrected and ascended into Heaven? And Mary?
Yes. In a word.
Jesus, absolutely, without a doubt. (And you really should read the shroud thread, it cannot, and is not, just of any man!)
Mary, I`m not sure but I
believe she did. I have no proof for that, I am totally open to correction but it is what I believe, at least for now. (And it is a Catholic thing)
Re: Resurrection of jesus christ
Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 3:34 am
by abelcainsbrother
perplexedsoul wrote:If we believe bible is a book of truth, we go and find proof from some 'words'. We can find such proof from comics too. But the question is about, tje reality. There is no proof for moving into another dimension, as all dimensions together makes an existence
First off,what would make you believe that Almighty God could not move into another dimension?God could easily do that so I don't see how you are being realistic thinking like you do.Not believing in God does not change anything.
But also reality is everything that comes into being has a cause and God is a cause but if you reject God? Then all you have is a cause problem that science cannot help you with.If you have decided no God exists?Then no amount of evidence would change your mind and yet you still have no substance behind what you believe is reality.
Re: Resurrection of jesus christ
Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 9:47 am
by perplexedsoul
Everyone use the word 'dimension', They play with that word. What exactly meant by dimension ?? And where is the resurrected jesus christ ?? Why he is not coming to the world and proove that he exist. Why he is not coming infront of a video camera and let himself recorded ???