Mormons and Baptism
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Mormons and Baptism
Are Mormons view on baptisms right?
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Re: Mormons and Baptism
No.UsagiTsukino wrote:Are Mormons view on baptisms right?
John 5:24
24 “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.
“A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.”
-Edward R Murrow
St. Richard the Sarcastic--The Patron Saint of Irony
24 “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.
“A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.”
-Edward R Murrow
St. Richard the Sarcastic--The Patron Saint of Irony
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Re: Mormons and Baptism
Here's one response to why not:RickD wrote:No.UsagiTsukino wrote:Are Mormons view on baptisms right?
http://www.catholic.com/quickquestions/ ... on-baptism
John 5:24
24 “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.
“A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.”
-Edward R Murrow
St. Richard the Sarcastic--The Patron Saint of Irony
24 “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.
“A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.”
-Edward R Murrow
St. Richard the Sarcastic--The Patron Saint of Irony
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Re: Mormons and Baptism
Mormons are not Christians. Their views on baptism are as irrelevant to Christianity as Hindus "purifying" themselves by bathing in the Ganges.
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Re: Mormons and Baptism
so priesthood baptism is wrong which is what Mormons believes.
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It doesn't matter what Mormons believe about baptism - or anything else! - because they are NOT Christians.UsagiTsukino wrote:so priesthood baptism is wrong which is what Mormons believes.
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I hope this is not a silly question but what counts has baptism?
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What does the Bible say about baptism? From memory, Jesus and the Ethiopian enuch are the only two water baptisms recorded in the Bible. Both events are simple affairs: someone expresses the desire to be baptised, and they go down into a body of water and are immersed into it. For Jesus' baptism, there were impromtu witnesses, for the Ethiopian's, there were no witnesses. No priests were present either, no documents were signed, no money was transacted, the families of either men were not invited, there were no godmothers or godfathers, and no gifts were received. There was no party afterwards.UsagiTsukino wrote:I hope this is not a silly question but what counts [as] baptism?
Do you see the simplicity of the Bible's two baptisms?
The ceremony of baptism is nothing in and of itself. Water baptism has no power to save anyone. If I put a gun to a Hindu's head and dunk him into a pool of water in the name of Jesus, is the Hindu baptized? No! upon death, the Hindu still goes to hell. Water baptism is nothing more than the outward witness of a spiritual birth.
When we are born from above - spiritually born - (John 3:3) we receive a divine nature enabling us to do God's Will. This birth from above comes as a result of you understanding that you have sinned against God, that you have no hope of saving yourself, and so you turn to Christ and give Him control over your life. This is when you become a Christian. No water is necessary for this event.
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Thank You I hope I have not asked silly questions
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No...only RickD asks silly questions. You're OK.UsagiTsukino wrote:Thank You I hope I have not asked silly questions
Why don't you have an avatar? Where are you from?
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New York CityFurstentum Liechtenstein wrote:No...only RickD asks silly questions. You're OK.UsagiTsukino wrote:Thank You I hope I have not asked silly questions
Why don't you have an avatar? Where are you from?
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I never ask silly questions.Furstentum Liechtenstein wrote:No...only RickD asks silly questions. You're OK.UsagiTsukino wrote:Thank You I hope I have not asked silly questions
Why don't you have an avatar? Where are you from?
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Are French Canadians real people?
John 5:24
24 “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.
“A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.”
-Edward R Murrow
St. Richard the Sarcastic--The Patron Saint of Irony
24 “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.
“A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.”
-Edward R Murrow
St. Richard the Sarcastic--The Patron Saint of Irony
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Re: Mormons and Baptism
OK... thanks! And thanks for posting an avatar!UsagiTsukino wrote:New York City
What does the Bible say about this? Normally, I favor a grammatico-historical interpretation of the Bible but an allegorical-mystical interpretation of certain biblical passages would best answer your question. If you have a concordance, look up the word locust. All passages dealing with locusts pertain to French Canadians invading Florida, buying up land, changing its culture and leaving behind their detritus as they fly back up north for the summer.RickD wrote:I never ask silly questions. Are French Canadians real people?
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Hold everything lightly. If you don't, it will hurt when God pries your fingers loose as He takes it from you. -Corrie Ten Boom
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Re: Mormons and Baptism
So FL, did you buy the Florida Ski Resort Rick was selling a while ago that was on the mountain by the shores of gitche gumee by the shining sea, yet?Furstentum Liechtenstein wrote:What does the Bible say about this? Normally, I favor a grammatico-historical interpretation of the Bible but an allegorical-mystical interpretation of certain biblical passages would best answer your question. If you have a concordance, look up the word locust. All passages dealing with locusts pertain to French Canadians invading Florida, buying up land, changing its culture and leaving behind their detritus as they fly back up north for the summer.RickD wrote:I never ask silly questions. Are French Canadians real people?
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No he didn't. His wife won't let him.B. W. wrote:So FL, did you buy the Florida Ski Resort Rick was selling a while ago that was on the mountain by the shores of gitche gumee by the shining sea, yet?Furstentum Liechtenstein wrote:What does the Bible say about this? Normally, I favor a grammatico-historical interpretation of the Bible but an allegorical-mystical interpretation of certain biblical passages would best answer your question. If you have a concordance, look up the word locust. All passages dealing with locusts pertain to French Canadians invading Florida, buying up land, changing its culture and leaving behind their detritus as they fly back up north for the summer.RickD wrote:I never ask silly questions. Are French Canadians real people?
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John 5:24
24 “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.
“A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.”
-Edward R Murrow
St. Richard the Sarcastic--The Patron Saint of Irony
24 “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.
“A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.”
-Edward R Murrow
St. Richard the Sarcastic--The Patron Saint of Irony