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Mormons and Baptism

Posted: Mon May 04, 2015 7:19 pm
by UsagiTsukino
Are Mormons view on baptisms right?

Re: Mormons and Baptism

Posted: Tue May 05, 2015 3:12 am
by RickD
UsagiTsukino wrote:Are Mormons view on baptisms right?
No.

Re: Mormons and Baptism

Posted: Tue May 05, 2015 3:14 am
by RickD
RickD wrote:
UsagiTsukino wrote:Are Mormons view on baptisms right?
No.
Here's one response to why not:
http://www.catholic.com/quickquestions/ ... on-baptism

Re: Mormons and Baptism

Posted: Tue May 05, 2015 3:57 am
by Furstentum Liechtenstein
Mormons are not Christians. Their views on baptism are as irrelevant to Christianity as Hindus "purifying" themselves by bathing in the Ganges.

FL :shower:

Re: Mormons and Baptism

Posted: Wed May 13, 2015 3:51 pm
by UsagiTsukino
so priesthood baptism is wrong which is what Mormons believes.

Re: Mormons and Baptism

Posted: Wed May 13, 2015 4:01 pm
by Furstentum Liechtenstein
UsagiTsukino wrote:so priesthood baptism is wrong which is what Mormons believes.
It doesn't matter what Mormons believe about baptism - or anything else! - because they are NOT Christians.

FL y:-B

Re: Mormons and Baptism

Posted: Wed May 13, 2015 7:38 pm
by UsagiTsukino
I hope this is not a silly question but what counts has baptism?

Re: Mormons and Baptism

Posted: Thu May 14, 2015 5:08 am
by Furstentum Liechtenstein
UsagiTsukino wrote:I hope this is not a silly question but what counts [as] baptism?
What does the Bible say about baptism? From memory, Jesus and the Ethiopian enuch are the only two water baptisms recorded in the Bible. Both events are simple affairs: someone expresses the desire to be baptised, and they go down into a body of water and are immersed into it. For Jesus' baptism, there were impromtu witnesses, for the Ethiopian's, there were no witnesses. No priests were present either, no documents were signed, no money was transacted, the families of either men were not invited, there were no godmothers or godfathers, and no gifts were received. There was no party afterwards.

Do you see the simplicity of the Bible's two baptisms?

The ceremony of baptism is nothing in and of itself. Water baptism has no power to save anyone. If I put a gun to a Hindu's head and dunk him into a pool of water in the name of Jesus, is the Hindu baptized? No! upon death, the Hindu still goes to hell. Water baptism is nothing more than the outward witness of a spiritual birth.

When we are born from above - spiritually born - (John 3:3) we receive a divine nature enabling us to do God's Will. This birth from above comes as a result of you understanding that you have sinned against God, that you have no hope of saving yourself, and so you turn to Christ and give Him control over your life. This is when you become a Christian. No water is necessary for this event.

FL :incense:

Re: Mormons and Baptism

Posted: Fri May 15, 2015 10:47 am
by UsagiTsukino
Thank You I hope I have not asked silly questions

Re: Mormons and Baptism

Posted: Fri May 15, 2015 6:00 pm
by Furstentum Liechtenstein
UsagiTsukino wrote:Thank You I hope I have not asked silly questions
No...only RickD asks silly questions. You're OK.

Why don't you have an avatar? Where are you from?

FL y:-?

Re: Mormons and Baptism

Posted: Fri May 15, 2015 8:10 pm
by UsagiTsukino
Furstentum Liechtenstein wrote:
UsagiTsukino wrote:Thank You I hope I have not asked silly questions
No...only RickD asks silly questions. You're OK.

Why don't you have an avatar? Where are you from?

FL y:-?
New York City

Re: Mormons and Baptism

Posted: Sat May 16, 2015 5:27 am
by RickD
Furstentum Liechtenstein wrote:
UsagiTsukino wrote:Thank You I hope I have not asked silly questions
No...only RickD asks silly questions. You're OK.

Why don't you have an avatar? Where are you from?

FL y:-?
I never ask silly questions.

Are French Canadians real people?

Re: Mormons and Baptism

Posted: Sat May 16, 2015 7:24 am
by Furstentum Liechtenstein
UsagiTsukino wrote:New York City
OK... thanks! And thanks for posting an avatar!
RickD wrote:I never ask silly questions. Are French Canadians real people?
What does the Bible say about this? Normally, I favor a grammatico-historical interpretation of the Bible but an allegorical-mystical interpretation of certain biblical passages would best answer your question. If you have a concordance, look up the word locust. All passages dealing with locusts pertain to French Canadians invading Florida, buying up land, changing its culture and leaving behind their detritus as they fly back up north for the summer.

FL :soap:

Re: Mormons and Baptism

Posted: Sat May 16, 2015 9:57 am
by B. W.
Furstentum Liechtenstein wrote:
RickD wrote:I never ask silly questions. Are French Canadians real people?
What does the Bible say about this? Normally, I favor a grammatico-historical interpretation of the Bible but an allegorical-mystical interpretation of certain biblical passages would best answer your question. If you have a concordance, look up the word locust. All passages dealing with locusts pertain to French Canadians invading Florida, buying up land, changing its culture and leaving behind their detritus as they fly back up north for the summer.

FL :soap:
So FL, did you buy the Florida Ski Resort Rick was selling a while ago that was on the mountain by the shores of gitche gumee by the shining sea, yet?
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Re: Mormons and Baptism

Posted: Sat May 16, 2015 10:00 am
by RickD
B. W. wrote:
Furstentum Liechtenstein wrote:
RickD wrote:I never ask silly questions. Are French Canadians real people?
What does the Bible say about this? Normally, I favor a grammatico-historical interpretation of the Bible but an allegorical-mystical interpretation of certain biblical passages would best answer your question. If you have a concordance, look up the word locust. All passages dealing with locusts pertain to French Canadians invading Florida, buying up land, changing its culture and leaving behind their detritus as they fly back up north for the summer.

FL :soap:
So FL, did you buy the Florida Ski Resort Rick was selling a while ago that was on the mountain by the shores of gitche gumee by the shining sea, yet?
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No he didn't. His wife won't let him.