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A fascinating view on why evolution my not apply to humans
Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2015 10:16 am
by PaulSacramento
http://www.rooshv.com/the-theory-of-evo ... um=twitter
This part is very interesting:
Atheists are quick to throw away god and angels as the main cause of human behavior, and then what do they do but simply replace them with genes as the main cause of human behavior. One must wonder at the curious human need to attribute their behavior to something invisible and all-powerful.
According to the Christian religion, human beings and all other created things exist for the greater glory of God; according to sociobiology, human beings and all other living things exist for the benefit of their genes.
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Organisms have the adaptations that they do, according to the religion of Paley, because a single benevolent God intends them to survive and reproduce; and because that intention will be fulfilled the better, the better adapted the organisms are. According to the new religion, organisms have the adaptations they do, because many selfish gods intend to have copies of themselves, and as many copies as possible, carried by the next generation of organisms; and because that intention will be fulfilled the better, the better adapted the organisms.
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Genetics has merely provided the new religionists with the precise locality of their gods, on the chromosomes of the sex cells.
And to me the key question:
Why is there evolution?
Where did it come from? What is driving it towards organization and consciousness? What is the reason for this process existing? Evolutionary theory does not answer this, and takes on the phenomenon of replication as an automatic given, like the existence of the Planck constant.
In particular, a molecule of DNA, or of water, or of anything, is not benefited by a replica of it brought into existence by this molecule itself, or by something else, or by nothing.
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[Molecules] cannot delight in the number of replicas that they make of themselves. They are not even intelligent enough, after all, to know when they have made a replica of themselves.
Please read the full article, it is fascinating.
Re: A fascinating view on why evolution my not apply to huma
Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2015 11:52 am
by RickD
Be careful Paul. By posting this, you are in danger of sawing off the limb that you are sitting on.
Re: A fascinating view on why evolution my not apply to huma
Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2015 12:36 pm
by PaulSacramento
RickD wrote:Be careful Paul. By posting this, you are in danger of sawing off the limb that you are sitting on.
LOL !
Nah, as you know I have my doubts about evolution via natural selection.
Not evolution per say, but that "natural selection" is the driving force.
Re: A fascinating view on why evolution my not apply to huma
Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2015 7:27 pm
by abelcainsbrother
PaulSacramento wrote:RickD wrote:Be careful Paul. By posting this, you are in danger of sawing off the limb that you are sitting on.
LOL !
Nah, as you know I have my doubts about evolution via natural selection.
Not evolution per say, but that "natural selection" is the driving force.
One of these days I'm going to convince you evolution is a myth.I hope you come around to what the evidence in this earth really reveals and proves and it is not evolution,buddy.
Re: A fascinating view on why evolution my not apply to huma
Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2015 6:21 am
by PaulSacramento
abelcainsbrother wrote:PaulSacramento wrote:RickD wrote:Be careful Paul. By posting this, you are in danger of sawing off the limb that you are sitting on.
LOL !
Nah, as you know I have my doubts about evolution via natural selection.
Not evolution per say, but that "natural selection" is the driving force.
One of these days I'm going to convince you evolution is a myth.I hope you come around to what the evidence in this earth really reveals and proves and it is not evolution,buddy.
I admire your conviction my friend
Re: A fascinating view on why evolution my not apply to huma
Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2015 6:08 pm
by abelcainsbrother
Here is an interesting link also.Notice the phrase " A Lord of the rings type world" which is what I believe but I admit that I do not look at it from an evolution viewpoint.The evidence itself backs up what I believe.
http://www.collective-evolution.com/201 ... evolution/
Re: A fascinating view on why evolution my not apply to huma
Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2015 9:29 am
by bippy123
Fascinating article Paul , especially since it comes from one of the biggest womanizers online rooshv, who is also an atheist himself . He is starting to see that Darwinian evolution cannot account for many of the things he talks about in his article .
I saw a video of this guy being interviewed on russian tv and most of his energies seems to be focused on how to get women from every country he travels to into bed .
I'm surprised he took time off from his womanizing to have a thoughtful and deep article on evolution .
Re: A fascinating view on why evolution my not apply to huma
Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2015 9:30 am
by bippy123
PaulSacramento wrote:RickD wrote:Be careful Paul. By posting this, you are in danger of sawing off the limb that you are sitting on.
LOL !
Nah, as you know I have my doubts about evolution via natural selection.
Not evolution per say, but that "natural selection" is the driving force.
But is intelligent evolution really evolution any our . The line seems so blurred now that I see very little difference between this and intelligent design .
Re: A fascinating view on why evolution my not apply to huma
Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2015 11:57 pm
by neo-x
A rather flawed article in my opinion.
Anti-evolutionary behaviors should have been weeded out of the gene pool according to the idea of natural selection, but the more I looked around, the more I saw nothing but my own behavior, of people who were actually frightened to death about being a parent even though they were healthy and could afford to raise children. In fact, the sum of Western ideologies seem aimed to specifically halt human reproduction.
HE confused and kind of wrongly mixed the
Baldwin effect with his ideas. Evolution doesn't have a purpose. If our behaviors are anti evolutionary, we will go extinct, just like 99% of all life that ever existed on this 4 billion old rock. To assume that evolution "wants" to preserve itself is dumb. Natural selection doesn't work like that.
Further more, Darwin's ideas, some of it were wrong itself and have been done away with the modern evolutionary theory, the fact that he constantly refers back to Darwin is just pleading to false evidence and straw men.
He concludes with a Non sequitur and that's the article.
What most people don't realize or don't want to admit is that it would take more than a philosophical statement to prove evolution false.
Re: A fascinating view on why evolution my not apply to huma
Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2015 10:53 pm
by abelcainsbrother
Evolution has never been proven, and how would a person know if the theory of evolution is false? Most scientists accept it,so until they are convinced it is not true,evolution is here to stay and deceive people about what the evidence really proves.
Re: A fascinating view on why evolution my not apply to huma
Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2015 4:23 am
by neo-x
abelcainsbrother wrote:Evolution has never been proven
Neither have God, yet we both believe in him.