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A question for atheists
Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2015 1:59 am
by Nessa
Frank Turek asks atheists this following question:
"If you
knew that Christianity was true, would you become a christian"
So for those of you who are atheists - what would your reply be?
Re: A question for atheists
Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2015 5:21 am
by Kenny
Nessa wrote:Frank Turek asks atheists this following question:
"If you
knew that Christianity was true, would you become a christian"
So for those of you who are atheists - what would your reply be?
Of course! If you
knew theism was false, would'nt you become Atheist?
Ken
Re: A question for atheists
Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2015 6:37 am
by edwardmurphy
If Pascal's Wager became Pascal's Guarantee then I guess a lot to think about, since my other option would be to have my soul roasted in hellfire for all eternity. It would be an extremely resentful conversion if it happened. If god existed he'd have a lot of explaining to do.
This is an interesting read.
Re: A question for atheists
Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2015 8:36 am
by Mallz
If you knew theism was false, would'nt you become Atheist?
Of course.
Re: A question for atheists
Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2015 9:37 am
by EssentialSacrifice
If you knew theism was false, would'nt you become Atheist?
Unnecessary, if, acknowledging there is no theism, why would there even be atheism ? There is no light if everywhere, there is darkness.
Re: A question for atheists
Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2015 9:55 am
by RickD
EssentialSacrifice wrote:If you knew theism was false, would'nt you become Atheist?
Unnecessary, if, acknowledging there is no theism, why would there even be atheism ? There is no light if everywhere, there is darkness.
Re: A question for atheists
Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2015 10:45 am
by 1over137
Nessa wrote:Frank Turek asks atheists this following question:
"If you
knew that Christianity was true, would you become a christian"
So for those of you who are atheists - what would your reply be?
Some years ago I would reply to you: yes.
Re: A question for atheists
Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2015 11:22 am
by Kenny
EssentialSacrifice wrote:If you knew theism was false, would'nt you become Atheist?
Unnecessary, if, acknowledging there is no theism, why would there even be atheism ? There is no light if everywhere, there is darkness.
My scenario was not about "no theism" it was about if you knew theism was false.
Ken
Re: A question for atheists
Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2015 11:41 am
by RickD
Kenny wrote:EssentialSacrifice wrote:If you knew theism was false, would'nt you become Atheist?
Unnecessary, if, acknowledging there is no theism, why would there even be atheism ? There is no light if everywhere, there is darkness.
My scenario was not about "no theism" it was about if you knew theism was false.
Ken
Here we go again...
Kenny,
You do realize if theism is false, that's the same as saying theism doesn't exist, don't you?
Re: A question for atheists
Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2015 11:49 am
by edwardmurphy
RickD wrote:Kenny wrote:EssentialSacrifice wrote:If you knew theism was false, would'nt you become Atheist?
Unnecessary, if, acknowledging there is no theism, why would there even be atheism ? There is no light if everywhere, there is darkness.
My scenario was not about "no theism" it was about if you knew theism was false.
Ken
Here we go again...
Kenny,
You do realize if theism is false, that's the same as saying theism doesn't exist, don't you?
Sure, in a world where everyone behaved rationally. Here on Earth there are still people who think Elvis is alive and the moon landing was faked. Incontrovertible evidence that god doesn't exist and never has would definitely diminish Christianity, but it wouldn't kill it entirely. Thus there would still be theists, thus there would still be atheists...
Re: A question for atheists
Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2015 12:06 pm
by Nessa
Kenny wrote:Nessa wrote:Frank Turek asks atheists this following question:
"If you
knew that Christianity was true, would you become a christian"
So for those of you who are atheists - what would your reply be?
Of course! If you
knew theism was false, would'nt you become Atheist?
Ken
The answer to the question is suppose to help reveal what issue the atheist has with christianity e.g moral or intellectual etc
Re: A question for atheists
Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2015 2:09 pm
by Nessa
Dawkins says that if he met God after he died and knew he was then true....he would say...
"Evidence, God! Where was the evidence?!"
I dont believe it is a mere matter of evidence for him.
He is disgusted and insulted at very thought of the Christian God.
His pride and trust in his own intellect won't even let him see beyond himself.
Re: A question for atheists
Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2015 2:12 pm
by RickD
edwardmurphy wrote:RickD wrote:Kenny wrote:EssentialSacrifice wrote:If you knew theism was false, would'nt you become Atheist?
Unnecessary, if, acknowledging there is no theism, why would there even be atheism ? There is no light if everywhere, there is darkness.
My scenario was not about "no theism" it was about if you knew theism was false.
Ken
Here we go again...
Kenny,
You do realize if theism is false, that's the same as saying theism doesn't exist, don't you?
Sure, in a world where everyone behaved rationally. Here on Earth there are still people who think Elvis is alive and the moon landing was faked. Incontrovertible evidence that god doesn't exist and never has would definitely diminish Christianity, but it wouldn't kill it entirely. Thus there would still be theists, thus there would still be atheists...
Wait...what? Elvis is still alive...right?
Re: A question for atheists
Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2015 2:20 pm
by Kenny
RickD wrote:Kenny wrote:EssentialSacrifice wrote:If you knew theism was false, would'nt you become Atheist?
Unnecessary, if, acknowledging there is no theism, why would there even be atheism ? There is no light if everywhere, there is darkness.
My scenario was not about "no theism" it was about if you knew theism was false.
Ken
Here we go again...
Kenny,
You do realize if theism is false, that's the same as saying theism doesn't exist, don't you?
No! As long as there are people who
believe God exists, there will be theist.
Ken
Re: A question for atheists
Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2015 2:21 pm
by Kenny
Nessa wrote:Kenny wrote:Nessa wrote:Frank Turek asks atheists this following question:
"If you
knew that Christianity was true, would you become a christian"
So for those of you who are atheists - what would your reply be?
Of course! If you
knew theism was false, would'nt you become Atheist?
Ken
The answer to the question is suppose to help reveal what issue the atheist has with christianity e.g moral or intellectual etc
It does a very poor job of it
Ken