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Keystone Pipeline and Hillary

Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2015 2:33 pm
by Philip
Wow, as if many (those paying attention!) don't see her dodge and total lack of explaining the WHY of her reasoning!

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/09 ... tcmp=hpbt3

Yep, don't talk about the enormous number of jobs and furthered energy resources this brings America, let's talk about the nebulous, typical emotional issues of things like global warming - oops, I mean, climate change. Although I'm seeing the GW term used more around election time, as it's more of a useful fear-inducing technique that allows an avoidance of other pressing issues that we CAN do something about. Most politicians who want to spout off self-serving pseudoscience about GW typically connect it to a myriad of things that will do absolutely nothing to change it (and that is IF we COULD change it).

Re: Keystone Pipeline and Hillary

Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2015 11:55 am
by RickD
It's too bad that Hilary may be dropping out of the Presidential race soon. With articles like this, and her recent email issues, I was starting to see her vulnerability. I was really starting to trust her judgement on crucial issues. She's exactly the kind of leader that we desperately need for this country.

At the voting polls, she's still my #2 choice right now. If I'm unable to write in my first choice for president, Mickey Mouse, then Mrs. Clinton is sure to get my vote.

Signed,

:fruitcake:

Re: Keystone Pipeline and Hillary

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2015 10:30 am
by Furstentum Liechtenstein
RickD wrote: At the voting polls, [Hitlery Klinton] still my #2 choice right now. If I'm unable to write in my first choice for president, Mickey Mouse, then Mrs. Clinton is sure to get my vote.
I didn't know that those living in an asylum for the mentally unhinged could vote. I'm impressed! ...the USA has truly become a progressive nation under President Osama Obama.

Anonymous

Re: Keystone Pipeline and Hillary

Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2015 5:25 pm
by edwardmurphy
RickD wrote:It's too bad that Hilary may be dropping out of the Presidential race soon.
I imagine a Sanders - Trump election would be a hoot, but let's be realistic. Clinton isn't going to drop out and Trump isn't going to take the Republican nomination. It's going to be Jeb - Clinton.

I think Clinton will probably come out on top, if only because Jeb has a last name, and it's the same name as the guy who presided over the most disastrous administration in recent memory. The guy who made us an international laughing stock, created the mess that Obama has yet to fully clean up, and massively increased the size of the Federal government, along with the debt and the deficit. The guy who actually did pretty much everything that the Republicans claim the Democrats are always about to do. The guy whose last name is a shrubbery? Remember him? The Jeb campaign sure hopes you don't.

Also, what's with conservative types deliberately misspelling the names of people whose views they disagree with? It's kind of silly. Seriously, Hitlary? Are you really going to argue that she has anything whatsoever in common with Hitler? Seriously? Hitler???

Re: Keystone Pipeline and Hillary

Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2015 6:13 pm
by RickD
edwardmurphy wrote:
Also, what's with conservative types deliberately misspelling the names of people whose views they disagree with? It's kind of silly. Seriously, Hitlary? Are you really going to argue that she has anything whatsoever in common with Hitler? Seriously? Hitler???
Edward,

That's our Furstentum Liechtenstein. He's usually pretty good with his misspellings, in regard to comparisons. But this time, I think his brain is frozen from that far northern Canada cold.

Hillary is a left wing nut. And Hitler was a right wing nut. I'm not sure what FL was thinking with that. y:-?

Re: Keystone Pipeline and Hillary

Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2015 6:32 pm
by Philip
Seriously, Hitlary? Are you really going to argue that she has anything whatsoever in common with Hitler? Seriously? Hitler???
Well, Hitler did have a better, much more impressive mustache! :pound: But probably not as much testosterone. :shock:

Re: Keystone Pipeline and Hillary

Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2015 8:18 pm
by edwardmurphy
It amazes me that you guys think Hillary is a left-wing nut. On a scale of 1-10, with 1 being the extreme left and 10 being the extreme right, Obama and Hillary are about a 4. Jeb Bush is about a 6. Fox News is a bunch of 7's that earn a living by calling anyone less than 6 a crazy-eyed 1. You shouldn't take them seriously.

Re: Keystone Pipeline and Hillary

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2015 8:38 am
by Furstentum Liechtenstein
edwardmurphy wrote:Also, what's with conservative types deliberately misspelling the names of people whose views they disagree with? It's kind of silly. Seriously, Hitlary? Are you really going to argue that she has anything whatsoever in common with Hitler? Seriously? Hitler???
edwardsmurfy,

It was a play on her name, Eduardo. You need to chill out! You pinko commie types mustn't be a lot of fun at a party...
edwardmurphy wrote:It amazes me that you guys think Hillary is a left-wing nut. On a scale of 1-10, with 1 being the extreme left and 10 being the extreme right, Obama and Hillary are about a 4. Jeb Bush is about a 6. Fox News is a bunch of 7's that earn a living by calling anyone less than 6 a crazy-eyed 1. You shouldn't take them seriously.
Your scale, above, is likely culturally specific to gringos Americans. The main problem I see with Mrs Klinton is that her election as president would create yet another presidential dynasty. (If memory serves me correctly, this would be the USA's third such "dynasty".) Another problem is that she isn't that progressive. If you want socially progressive, vote for Bernie Sanders, assuming you are a Demagogue Democrat. Bernie strikes me as a man of integrity. Ultimately, I'd rather see a man of integrity in the White House than someone with plastic values.

As for Keystone XL, I say build it! ...and make sure the pipe is just behind your house.

Eskimo Joe

Re: Keystone Pipeline and Hillary

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2015 4:37 pm
by edwardmurphy
Furstentum Liechtenstein wrote:
edwardmurphy wrote:Also, what's with conservative types deliberately misspelling the names of people whose views they disagree with? It's kind of silly. Seriously, Hitlary? Are you really going to argue that she has anything whatsoever in common with Hitler? Seriously? Hitler???
edwardsmurfy,

It was a play on her name, Eduardo. You need to chill out! You pinko commie types mustn't be a lot of fun at a party...
Nope, not really.
Furstentum Liechtenstein wrote:
edwardmurphy wrote:It amazes me that you guys think Hillary is a left-wing nut. On a scale of 1-10, with 1 being the extreme left and 10 being the extreme right, Obama and Hillary are about a 4. Jeb Bush is about a 6. Fox News is a bunch of 7's that earn a living by calling anyone less than 6 a crazy-eyed 1. You shouldn't take them seriously.
Your scale, above, is likely culturally specific to gringos Americans. The main problem I see with Mrs Klinton is that her election as president would create yet another presidential dynasty. (If memory serves me correctly, this would be the USA's third such "dynasty".) Another problem is that she isn't that progressive. If you want socially progressive, vote for Bernie Sanders, assuming you are a Demagogue Democrat. Bernie strikes me as a man of integrity. Ultimately, I'd rather see a man of integrity in the White House than someone with plastic values.
I actually agree with you on all of that. I think that Sanders and Warren are among the very, very few politicians in Washington who care more about people than money. That goes for both sides of the aisle. Also, it's going to be a Bush - Clinton runoff. We're getting a dynasty. The only question remaining is if we want an oil guy or a Wall Street lady. If it has to be one or the other I guess I'd prefer Clinton. At least with them it's 2 and out. This would be our third Bush, and they're grooming about 100 more.
Furstentum Liechtenstein wrote:As for Keystone XL, I say build it! ...and make sure the pipe is just behind your house.

Eskimo Joe
Based on my, admittedly shallow, understanding of the issue it really makes no difference. We already have a massive grid of pipelines running all over the country, so one more barely matters. The people who value life over money lost the Keystone fight long before it started.