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Gay Rights, The Law, the Court Clerk, and THE BAKERS
Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2015 11:17 am
by Philip
OK, is there a difference here between the court clerk refusing to do what the law says she must and these Christian bakers who refused to decorate a wedding cake for a gay wedding? Should the bakers pay their fine while appealing? What?
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/10/01/or ... tcmp=hpbt4
Re: Gay Rights, The Law, the Court Clerk, and THE BAKERS
Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2015 12:49 pm
by Nessa
I noticed the sign the woman was carrying about why we all can't just eat cake equally....well, it's not actually about the 'cake'.
Hey! wait..did I just say it's
not about the cake?
What is wrong with me?!
Re: Gay Rights, The Law, the Court Clerk, and THE BAKERS
Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2015 6:21 am
by PaulSacramento
Forced tolerance is NOT tolerance.
Forced acceptance is NOT acceptance.
As soon as people understand this, the better.
When a government is allowed to pass a laws the tells the private sector WHO they MUST cater to, then the problem isn't the government, its the people that ALLOW the government to pass these laws.
Re: Gay Rights, The Law, the Court Clerk, and THE BAKERS
Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2015 4:32 pm
by EssentialSacrifice
When a government is allowed to pass a laws the tells the private sector WHO they MUST cater to, then the problem isn't the government, its the people that ALLOW the government to pass these laws.
Re: Gay Rights, The Law, the Court Clerk, and THE BAKERS
Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2015 6:33 pm
by Philip
Yes, it's not as if the gay couple didn't have many other choices of bakers that would have gladly accommodated them. Notice how, in such situations, the supposedly aggrieved gay persons don't see how THEY are discriminating against the right of a Christian to practice their spiritual beliefs - as CLEARLY, they do not view such personal rights as being a TWO-way street! And they not only don't respect the right of others' beliefs, but THEN they sue them so as to cause them much stress and cost. Why? Because they are more interested in scoring some supposed political point than they are simply understanding and respecting the business owner and driving a few minutes to another baker's business. Who is the REAL haters here?
Re: Gay Rights, The Law, the Court Clerk, and THE BAKERS
Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2015 1:49 pm
by theophilus
The bakers did not refuse to decorate a cake for a
gay marriage. They refused to decorate it for a
same sex marriage. The two are not the same.
https://clydeherrin.wordpress.com/2015/ ... -marriage/
Perhaps if Christians would stop using the phrase "gay marriage" and only speak of "same sex" marriages it would help others to understand what we are trying to do.
Re: Gay Rights, The Law, the Court Clerk, and THE BAKERS
Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2015 1:59 pm
by RickD
theophilus wrote:The bakers did not refuse to decorate a cake for a
gay marriage. They refused to decorate it for a
same sex marriage. The two are not the same.
https://clydeherrin.wordpress.com/2015/ ... -marriage/
Perhaps if Christians would stop using the phrase "gay marriage" and only speak of "same sex" marriages it would help others to understand what we are trying to do.
Don't be silly. It's the same thing. Gay marriage means the couple is the same sex. If a man and woman get married, and one of them happens to be attracted to the same sex, their heterosexual marriage is not called a gay marriage.
Re: Gay Rights, The Law, the Court Clerk, and THE BAKERS
Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2015 2:47 pm
by abelcainsbrother
I was listening to some political pundit the other night and he said 60% of Christians are not voting.
Re: Gay Rights, The Law, the Court Clerk, and THE BAKERS
Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2015 3:09 pm
by RickD
abelcainsbrother wrote:I was listening to some political pundit the other night and he said 60% of Christians are not voting.
Define "Christian", in regards to the poll.
If it's defined as anyone who calls themselves Christian, then that's probably close to 70% of the US population.
Re: Gay Rights, The Law, the Court Clerk, and THE BAKERS
Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2015 4:44 pm
by abelcainsbrother
RickD wrote:abelcainsbrother wrote:I was listening to some political pundit the other night and he said 60% of Christians are not voting.
Define "Christian", in regards to the poll.
If it's defined as anyone who calls themselves Christian, then that's probably close to 70% of the US population.
Sorry I was just listening to him ramble on about Christians not voting while I was driving.I was not able to verify though but he seemed to be making sense in explaining why Christians should vote.
Re: Gay Rights, The Law, the Court Clerk, and THE BAKERS
Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2015 6:25 pm
by Philip
Well, one thing about America, the Supremes can easily nuke our votes. But, yeah, terrible many Americans don't vote!
Re: Gay Rights, The Law, the Court Clerk, and THE BAKERS
Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2015 6:31 pm
by RickD
Philip wrote:Well, one thing about America, the Supremes can easily nuke our votes. But, yeah, terrible many Americans don't vote!
Diana Ross?
Re: Gay Rights, The Law, the Court Clerk, and THE BAKERS
Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2015 6:43 pm
by Philip
Diana has help! Unfortunately.
Re: Gay Rights, The Law, the Court Clerk, and THE BAKERS
Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2015 7:49 am
by Philip
Now, EVERY perceived thing is considered a "right" if it COULD be offered by some public entity, but isn't.
Check out this - ACLU suing Catholic hospital for not offering abortions:
http://video.foxnews.com/v/453072264600 ... show-clips
What do you guys think about THAT?
Re: Gay Rights, The Law, the Court Clerk, and THE BAKERS
Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2015 7:55 am
by RickD
Philip wrote:Now, EVERY perceived thing is considered a "right" if it COULD be offered by some public entity, but isn't.
Check out this - ACLU suing Catholic hospital for not offering abortions:
http://video.foxnews.com/v/453072264600 ... show-clips
What do you guys think about THAT?
DAMN CATHOLIC HOSPITALS! HOW DARE THEY TRY TO DO THE MORALLY RIGHT THING!!!!