"The heavens declare the glory of God; the skies proclaim the work of his hands." (Psalm 19:1)
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If you get a chance check out the documentary The Exodus Decoded. Highly recommended.Bluejay4 wrote:It's mythic storytelling and nothing more. The more we learn about archeology and history in biblical times, the more we realize that most of the stuff in the bible is fiction.
—Michael Shermer
Is this true? Do you know of any serious archeologist who thinks the Exodus has a basis in reality?
There is actual evidence out there as B.W. pointed out but another evidence for the Exodus is the fact that religious jews still celebrate jewish feast days that were set up by God after Moses brought the children of Israel out of Egypt and so the fact religious jews still celebrate these jewish feast days that go back thousands of years is evidence for the Exodus.Bluejay4 wrote:It's mythic storytelling and nothing more. The more we learn about archeology and history in biblical times, the more we realize that most of the stuff in the bible is fiction.
—Michael Shermer
Is this true? Do you know of any serious archeologist who thinks the Exodus has a basis in reality?
Bluejay4 wrote:It's mythic storytelling and nothing more. The more we learn about archeology and history in biblical times, the more we realize that most of the stuff in the bible is fiction.
—Michael Shermer
Is this true? Do you know of any serious archeologist who thinks the Exodus has a basis in reality?
Um, NO archaeologist's "work" reveals anything but fragments of the total picture. All have documented and assembled ONLY their own fragments. There are, of course, various popular interpretive, yet speculative, narratives of the Exodus, all based upon various assumptions. Hoffmeir draws from the arc of the total evidences, drawing upon the works of numerous other scholars, evidences, and other archaeologists. One thing is definitely certain: As for those whom would assert that the Exodus accounts were written up to six centuries later, the level of specifics and knowledge of the text's asserted period, it's certain geographical markers, are far too detailed, match up far too well with what scholars and archaeologists HAVE found - and thus are NOT just the work of just any ONE archaeologist. Again, if one starts from an assumption, assembles the evidences into their own narrative to fit it - well, that will be but one unproven consensus. But it surely doesn't mean that other analyses are incorrect. For the longest time, until archaeologists had found proof, many asserted that Solomon and David were but myth. And yet... And this is true of so many Bible assertions that have later been proven. Certain NO archaeology has disproven the Bible - which is pretty amazing.Audie: not the work of an archaeologist that seems to be about overthrowing the works of every other archaeologist
Philip wrote:Um, NO archaeologist's "work" reveals anything but fragments of the total picture. All have documented and assembled ONLY their own fragments. There are, of course, various popular interpretive, yet speculative, narratives of the Exodus, all based upon various assumptions. Hoffmeir draws from the arc of the total evidences, drawing upon the works of numerous other scholars, evidences, and other archaeologists. One thing is definitely certain: As for those whom would assert that the Exodus accounts were written up to six centuries later, the level of specifics and knowledge of the text's asserted period, it's certain geographical markers, are far too detailed, match up far too well with what scholars and archaeologists HAVE found - and thus are NOT just the work of just any ONE archaeologist. Again, if one starts from an assumption, assembles the evidences into their own narrative to fit it - well, that will be but one unproven consensus. But it surely doesn't mean that other analyses are incorrect. For the longest time, until archaeologists had found proof, many asserted that Solomon and David were but myth. And yet... And this is true of so many Bible assertions that have later been proven. Certain NO archaeology has disproven the Bible - which is pretty amazing.Audie: not the work of an archaeologist that seems to be about overthrowing the works of every other archaeologist
No. And neither are Bible scholars.Audie: Are you a Ron Wyatt fan, btw?
So you might agree thst his reading is readily shown to if not bePhilip wrote:No. And neither are Bible scholars.Audie: Are you a Ron Wyatt fan, btw?
Historical accounts that cannot be verified in any way may not really bePaulSacramento wrote:Archaeologically speaking I do not think there is any evidence for the Exodus BUT archaeology is just ONE part of the equation.
The archaeological record is the body of physical (i.e. not written) evidence about the past.
The other aspect is historical accounts.
Does this means that exodus happened?Basically archaeology is best at getting at very the general social structure and broader human development, and not great at getting at the specific events and individuals of the past. This is why archaeology is typically a sub-discipline of anthropology (except for Classical archaeology, they do their own thing. We don't talk. It's kind of sad). Where texts exist they can really help clarify the archaeological record, but the record itself is limited to broader aspects of a given society (not to mention that it is the only information we have for people that didn't have writing, and even in societies that had writing the written records often focus on the major figures of society, so archaeological evidence is the main data for figuring out what the majority of people were up to).