Evidence for God from Science

In response to the other thread how about this:

Does anything attract you to Atheism?
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B. W. wrote:In response to the other thread how about this:

Does anything attract you to Atheism?
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Uh, maybe sin?
Though attraction is there, Im not so sure I am as attracted to the natural or spiritual concequences..

Btw, I know there are some atheists living more moral lives than some christians so hopefully the atheists dont take my answer the wrong way

I do like this thought provoking question though

The question is kind of like, "what attracted you to not playing basketball?".

Of course, I come from a completely a-religious background, so I find the whole religion-thing similar to star wars, with people trying to take it seriously.

"What attracted you to not being like a totally huge star wars fan?"

Maybe someone who grew up in a religious family but then sees how its all star wars will have it drop away, and presto, atheist.

I can't see how anyone would be drawnto it, moth to flame wise. Maybe it would make sense to someone, but it does not to me.

Religion is unattractive to me.
Nothingness at death I think is quite attractive.
Your life is yours, you get to live life how you please and then nothing matters.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAGnKpE4NCI

Oh yeah, some of the atheists are nice..thats quite attractive too

Kurieuo wrote:Religion is unattractive to me.
Nothingness at death I think is quite attractive.
Your life is yours, you get to live life how you please and then nothing matters.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAGnKpE4NCI

Was thinking of that song before I saw you put the link up..

Nessa wrote:Oh yeah, some of the atheists are nice..thats quite attractive too

What's the winking for? Yes, I know some very nice Atheists too.

Nessa wrote:

Kurieuo wrote:Religion is unattractive to me.
Nothingness at death I think is quite attractive.
Your life is yours, you get to live life how you please and then nothing matters.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAGnKpE4NCI

Was thinking of that song before I saw you put the link up..

Yes, don't let other Christians know you listen to it. They might question your faith.
That, my dear, is how I see religion. Rules made up on God's behalf, always judging, wanting to burden.
Think how Anakin was burdened by the Light Side, he wasn't allowed to love.
I much prefer Jesus' yoke. (Matt 11:30)

Kurieuo wrote:

Nessa wrote:

Kurieuo wrote:Religion is unattractive to me.
Nothingness at death I think is quite attractive.
Your life is yours, you get to live life how you please and then nothing matters.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAGnKpE4NCI

Was thinking of that song before I saw you put the link up..

Yes, don't let other Christians know you listen to it. They might question your faith.
That, my dear, is how I see religion. Rules made up on God's behalf, always judging, wanting to burden.
Think how Anakin was burdened by the Light Side, he wasn't allowed to love.
I much prefer Jesus' yoke. (Matt 11:30)

my dear?

C'mon, tricky ricky! Stop tinkering with people's posts

Kurieuo wrote:

Nessa wrote:Oh yeah, some of the atheists are nice..thats quite attractive too

What's the winking for? Yes, I know some very nice Atheists too.

Something in my eye maybe?

Actually,

I'm attracted to theism. But my definition of theism may be different from the traditional definition of theism.

Theism-lack of belief in the non-existence of God.

I hold to this definition(the correct one) so I don't have to defend my lack of belief. Since I don't actually believe God exists, it's not a belief I have to defend.

RickD wrote:Actually,

I'm attracted to theism. But my definition of theism may be different from the traditional definition of theism.

Theism-lack of belief in the non-existence of God.

I hold to this definition(the correct one) so I don't have to defend my lack of belief. Since I don't actually believe God exists, it's not a belief I have to defend.

Given all else I believe, I'd be a walking contradiction to say I lack any belief in Something higher.

Kurieuo wrote:

RickD wrote:Actually,

I'm attracted to theism. But my definition of theism may be different from the traditional definition of theism.

Theism-lack of belief in the non-existence of God.

I hold to this definition(the correct one) so I don't have to defend my lack of belief. Since I don't actually believe God exists, it's not a belief I have to defend.

Given all else I believe, I'd be a walking contradiction to say I lack any belief in Something higher.

You don't need to say you lack a belief in God. Just lack a belief in His non-existence. See? Easy peasy. No positive belief=not needing to back any beliefs. You can just make others back their beliefs, while taking the dishonest position of just saying you lack a belief.

RickD wrote:

Kurieuo wrote:

RickD wrote:Actually,

I'm attracted to theism. But my definition of theism may be different from the traditional definition of theism.

Theism-lack of belief in the non-existence of God.

I hold to this definition(the correct one) so I don't have to defend my lack of belief. Since I don't actually believe God exists, it's not a belief I have to defend.

Given all else I believe, I'd be a walking contradiction to say I lack any belief in Something higher.

You don't need to say you lack a belief in God. Just lack a belief in His non-existence. See? Easy peasy. No positive belief=not needing to back any beliefs. You can just make others back their beliefs, while taking the dishonest position of just saying you lack a belief.

Yes, I get your point.

To add, some things we just do naturally or by habit without necessarily thinking I've got the believe A, B and C.
That someone has to say "I believe in God" is just a response to those who question God's existence. Like "huh, what?" A rude interjection to what just seems normal.

Kind of like when you really have to get somewhere.
You just think I'm going now and you jump in the car and away you go.
But, you didn't consider the petrol would be low, so now you have to make a stop to put some gas in your car.
Then, finally, you might just have enough time to get to where you're going. Turn the key in your car and then it starts clicking over. "Huh, what?", you say before realising you've now got a flat battery.

Well, what you just naturally thought would be jumping in the car and driving has just been rudely interrupted.
You previously just were going to jump in the car and get to your destination on time, but now you have all these annoying hindrances questioning what you previously just naturally accepted.

Similarly, if there weren't Atheists, then I'd not have given another thought to God's lack of existence. But, now I'm faced with those who question God's existence which I find most natural to just accept and I'm forced into a position of what I must now believe. When really in my natural state I just accepted God's existence, it seems most logical, plain and intuitive without even thinking. Kind of like what we do in life really does matter, which often only becomes questioned by many when faced with existential questions or death.