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Nessa wrote:Not sure how many of you are familiar with the 'Dogma Debate' but here are David Smalley's top 10 reasons for being an atheist.
http://dogmadebate.com/uncategorized/20 ... m-atheist/
Atheists: What would be your top reasons for being an atheist?
Jesus made salvation too easy for anybody to reject it.He is assuming all religions are the same when there is no religion anything like what Christianity offers and to reject Jesus because you assume Christianity is like all the others and lump them all together is sad especially when there is absolutely no evidence atheism is true,it is not worth it to reject Jesus and what he offers for an opinion inwhich you have no evidence it is true.Even if he is lucky to live to a ripe old age that is but a speck of time compared to eternity and where he'll spend it.And if he thinks the suffering is bad in this world? He does not seem to realize what an eternity in hell would be like. That would be my response to him.Nessa wrote:Not sure how many of you are familiar with the 'Dogma Debate' but here are David Smalley's top 10 reasons for being an atheist.
http://dogmadebate.com/uncategorized/20 ... m-atheist/
Atheists: What would be your top reasons for being an atheist?
Atheists don't believe in gods. Without gods religions are just empty threats and meaningless promises, and in that respect they're all precisely the same.abelcainsbrother wrote:Jesus made salvation too easy for anybody to reject it.He is assuming all religions are the same when there is no religion anything like what Christianity offers...
It is still not worth the risk to reject Jesus and what he offers to believe there is no God without any evidence.You have no way to know there is no God,eventhough you might believe there is no God.You have nothing to go on except your opinion there is no God. Now based on this since you have nothing to bring to the table when it comes to evidence there is no God,why would you even take the chance you might be wrong and Jesus exists,especially when he made salvation so easy compared to any other god? I mean yes,you can choose to take the risk you're wrong and then end up in hell for eternity but there is no reason to do it.Everyone of the sins you've committed could be forgiven right now,if you'd only ask and believe.edwardmurphy wrote:Atheists don't believe in gods. Without gods religions are just empty threats and meaningless promises, and in that respect they're all precisely the same.abelcainsbrother wrote:Jesus made salvation too easy for anybody to reject it.He is assuming all religions are the same when there is no religion anything like what Christianity offers...
I've never seen any evidence that gods exist, and I've seen all kinds of evidence that they don't. Granted, there can be no concrete proof on either side. You can't produce god - most likely because he doesn't exist - and I can't shine a light into every single corner where he might be lurking to prove that he isn't there. That's okay. I'm completely satisfied with my conclusion and with the evidence that got me there. The only risk I'm taking is that when tragedy inevitably strikes I'll have to face it without a placebo to cushion the blow. That sucks, but what can you do?abelcainsbrother wrote:It is still not worth the risk to reject Jesus and what he offers to believe there is no God without any evidence.You have no way to know there is no God,eventhough you might believe there is no God.You have nothing to go on except your opinion there is no God. Now based on this since you have nothing to bring to the table when it comes to evidence there is no God,why would you even take the chance you might be wrong and Jesus exists,especially when he made salvation so easy compared to any other god? I mean yes,you can choose to take the risk you're wrong and then end up in hell for eternity but there is no reason to do it.Everyone of the sins you've committed could be forgiven right now,if you'd only ask and believe.
Edward,edwardmurphy wrote:I've never seen any evidence that gods exist, and I've seen all kinds of evidence that they don't. Granted, there can be no concrete proof on either side. You can't produce god - most likely because he doesn't exist - and I can't shine a light into every single corner where he might be lurking to prove that he isn't there. That's okay. I'm completely satisfied with my conclusion and with the evidence that got me there. The only risk I'm taking is that when tragedy inevitably strikes I'll have to face it without a placebo to cushion the blow. That sucks, but what can you do?abelcainsbrother wrote:It is still not worth the risk to reject Jesus and what he offers to believe there is no God without any evidence.You have no way to know there is no God,eventhough you might believe there is no God.You have nothing to go on except your opinion there is no God. Now based on this since you have nothing to bring to the table when it comes to evidence there is no God,why would you even take the chance you might be wrong and Jesus exists,especially when he made salvation so easy compared to any other god? I mean yes,you can choose to take the risk you're wrong and then end up in hell for eternity but there is no reason to do it.Everyone of the sins you've committed could be forgiven right now,if you'd only ask and believe.
Also, Pascal's Wager is a crappy argument. The things that using it says about your beliefs and your image of god are kind of sad.
Pascal's wager has never really been refuted by atheists and it is just as effective as it always has been but especially when it comes to Christianity compared to all other religions and god's because none of them offer what Jesus does. It does not matter if you have'nt seen enough evidence for God it is still not wise to reject what Jesus offers when it is so easy than to wind up in hell for eternity because you rejected his offer without any evidence,just an opinion there is no God. Pascal was a gambling man and he knew all about odds if winning when you are gambling and atheists have nothing to bring to the table to hedge their bets with when it comes to evidence. If you're wrong,you'll go to hell for eternity because you refused to simply ask Jesus to forgive you and save you. If' I'm wrong? I don't go to hell I just die and that's it like atheists think.edwardmurphy wrote:I've never seen any evidence that gods exist, and I've seen all kinds of evidence that they don't. Granted, there can be no concrete proof on either side. You can't produce god - most likely because he doesn't exist - and I can't shine a light into every single corner where he might be lurking to prove that he isn't there. That's okay. I'm completely satisfied with my conclusion and with the evidence that got me there. The only risk I'm taking is that when tragedy inevitably strikes I'll have to face it without a placebo to cushion the blow. That sucks, but what can you do?abelcainsbrother wrote:It is still not worth the risk to reject Jesus and what he offers to believe there is no God without any evidence.You have no way to know there is no God,eventhough you might believe there is no God.You have nothing to go on except your opinion there is no God. Now based on this since you have nothing to bring to the table when it comes to evidence there is no God,why would you even take the chance you might be wrong and Jesus exists,especially when he made salvation so easy compared to any other god? I mean yes,you can choose to take the risk you're wrong and then end up in hell for eternity but there is no reason to do it.Everyone of the sins you've committed could be forgiven right now,if you'd only ask and believe.
Also, Pascal's Wager is a crappy argument. The things that using it says about your beliefs and your image of god are kind of sad.