Why Hillary Wins!

[Philip]

I believe that the unthinkable is very likely: That the massively corrupt Clintons will be back in the White House!

But I don't think it will be so much a matter of Democrats in huge numbers surging to pick the evil queen and what will likely be a female running mate, but a matter of people who traditionally vote Republican, who can't stand Trump and his sophomoric, juvenile tactics and dangerous off-the-cuff big mouth, that their conscience will not allow them to vote for such a dangerous grandstanding clown. THAT is what will elect Hillary! People dumb enough to support Hillary would blindly vote for her, no matter what she ever did, does, said, or says.

A high percentage of people with conservative values are extremely disturbed by Trump and will just not find it possible to vote for him. And Trump is the result of the mostly disastrous candidates that the Republicans have put forward. Clearly, so much of what Trump has tapped into and articulated ARE issues that rightfully anger people of values and who hate corrupt politics. He's brought into the open a lot of what others have been too cautious and timid to say - things that NEEDED to be said. But there's also a lot of very disturbing and immature things about the guy and things he's said - which are exactly why I think Hillary will win. Far too many solidly Republican voters just will not vote for this buffoon!

[Jac3510]

Nope. Some traditional republicans (=Bush/establishment) republicans will certainly stay home, but not enough to change any of the typical red states. Georgia, for instance, will still overwhelmingly go for Trump. That by itself negates any "Republicans won't support Trump argument." The vast, vast, vast majority will, in fact, support him. Because what he will lose in establishment idiots, he'll more than pick up in white working class voters who have traditionally either not voted or who have voted democrat. This will be especially true in the rust belt.

What Trump understands is that the typical Republican playbook just does not work. You cannot beat a Democrat--even Hillary Clinton, about the weakest possible Democrat--by appealing the the diminishing white vote while at the same time continuing to alienate blacks and hispanics with anti-minority policies (real or perceived). Trump isn't doing that. He's running a clearly nationalistic agenda: "America first." He's anti-globalist, and that's going to appeal to LOTS of people (don't think so: look at Brexit). The "smart" people will blast him for being stupid and racist. Neither charge is true. It's just a values issue.

[RickD]

Philip and Jac,

You two geniuses just don't understand how this "prophecy" thing is supposed to work.

For the last time, TED CRUZ WILL BE PRESIDENT! GOD TOLD TED's FATHER!! Can I get an A-men?

[Philip]

So Jac has a Trump bumper sticker???!!!

[RickD]

ACB and Jac. The resident G&S Trump rump swabs!

[Jac3510]

http://reason.com/archives/2016/06/27/e ... ver-brexit

http://blog.dilbert.com/post/1463614570 ... le-in-2016

Not saying I agree with the conclusions of either of these articles. I am saying that their observations about what is going on out there is fundamentally correct. There was nothing stunning about Brexit if you weren't blind to reality, and there won't be anything stunning about a Trump victory if you aren't blind to reality.

I'm not saying Clinton has no shot. Of course she does. America is a big country and no presidential election is ever a foregone conclusion. Anything can happen that can change the dynamic in an instant. (Jesus might return and personally endorse Ted Cruz, of course.) But the basic dynamic I'm pointing out is every bit as potent as the tea-party wave way back in 2010 . . . maybe bigger. We'll have to see if it recedes by November or if it only continues to build. I'm expecting the latter. We'll see.

[RickD]

I think the average American is tired of business as usual in DC. Tired of both democrats and republicans. The consensus is that politicians just don't listen to the people anymore.

And Trump represents change. He represents somebody who is seen as listening to the people.

[Philip]

The HUGE problem with "Joe Sixpack" is that while he instinctively knows when corrupt, status quo politicians have been screwing the country and they react in righteous anger and disgust at them, he isn't terribly astute when it comes to NEW political faces that are saying many of the right things, echoing back their disgust of such corruption, but who nonetheless are themselves extremely problematic. It's a matter of "Joe" being happy with anyone that can conquer the present politicians they are so angry at - and so they hear only what they want to, and filter out any potential messy problems with a new candidate - merely because such candidates have promised they will right all that is currently wrong. So, Joe's discernment is problematic, and the latest slickster political candidates know it and are eager and astute to exploit it!

[abelcainsbrother]

Here is why Hillary won't win.The dirty little secret everybody is overlooking is that people do not want another Bush or Clinton. People just do not like Hillary like the media tries to convince. They love Hillary and believe it is her time but the dirty little secret is people just don't like Hillary. She is no Bill Clinton politically,he was a politician's politician while she is'nt.As far as why she won the Primary? It was a set up and she would have won anyway regardless of Bernie because of the rules and super delegates. And Trump is a new face and just on personality alone is better than Hillary.This is why Hillary will lose and Trump will win.

[abelcainsbrother]

ACB and Jac. The resident G&S Trump rump swabs!

Hey,when Jac is right? He is right. I agree with most of what Jac sais and he is very good at explaining things. I only disagree with him on certain issues and they are not salvation issues.

[Jac3510]

The HUGE problem with "Joe Sixpack" is that while he instinctively knows when corrupt, status quo politicians have been screwing the country and they react in righteous anger and disgust at them, he isn't terribly astute when it comes to NEW political faces that are saying many of the right things, echoing back their disgust of such corruption, but who nonetheless are themselves extremely problematic. It's a matter of "Joe" being happy with anyone that can conquer the present politicians they are so angry at - and so they hear only what they want to, and filter out any potential messy problems with a new candidate - merely because such candidates have promised they will right all that is currently wrong. So, Joe's discernment is problematic, and the latest slickster political candidates know it and are eager and astute to exploit it!

May I suggest you read the first link in my post above? It addresses your point rather pointedly, I think.

[abelcainsbrother]

The HUGE problem with "Joe Sixpack" is that while he instinctively knows when corrupt, status quo politicians have been screwing the country and they react in righteous anger and disgust at them, he isn't terribly astute when it comes to NEW political faces that are saying many of the right things, echoing back their disgust of such corruption, but who nonetheless are themselves extremely problematic. It's a matter of "Joe" being happy with anyone that can conquer the present politicians they are so angry at - and so they hear only what they want to, and filter out any potential messy problems with a new candidate - merely because such candidates have promised they will right all that is currently wrong. So, Joe's discernment is problematic, and the latest slickster political candidates know it and are eager and astute to exploit it!

Those who don'_t like Trump are doing what they accuse us of doing - only hearing what they want to hear. There is no way anybody with conservative principles could not like Trump unless they are not informed,only hearing part of what was said or only hearing what they want to hear. Because there is nothing Trump has said this whole campaign that is as offensive as things liberals have done and said about conservatives,tima and to!e again.

You see before Trump ran for President he did his homework on every candidate that was running,he found out things they were hiding about their record and he held on to it until the right time. He knew he would be attacked during the primaries and he was ready to take on any candidate running. But he held on to this information until they attacked him or moved up in the polls. When they attacked him though,he hit them back even harder and exposed them with the truth. That is the thing that separates Trump from the other Republicans that ran. They were not prepared on the other hand like Trump was and so after he hit them back,they started firing back lies and slander at Trump. These lies and slanderous attacks on Trump increased so that only those really infor!med knew this. These lies and slanderous attacks on Trump did not work,the more they threw? The more it just bounced off. And yet their lying loser candidate was losing because Trump exposed them with the truth. Instead of seeing how dishonest their candidate really was,they just grew to dislike Trump to where now they still don't like him. But it is from not looking at things objectively because with the exception of maybe Ben Carson Trump has been the most honest and truthful candidate that ran and he still is.

Unless you are a wimp and think that standing up for yourself is a bad thing,there is no way to objectively dis-like Trump. And by the way Christians are not wimps and door Matt's for people to just walk over. We are the salt of the earth and we must take a stand and not be wimpy in order to be the salt of the earth. Just think of everything the early Christians went through and they were not wimps.

[Mallz]

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This one is for you ACB
The video that will get Trump elected:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCabT_O0YSM

[Hortator]

This was in my political predictions thread,

"I also predict that the Trump/Sanders ticket will obtain the majority in every state as well as the popular vote, but Hillary will still win for some reason few will know immediately why."

Remember, she's a lawyer. Whatever loophole, hazy law or rusty, old rule she can use she will use.

[abelcainsbrother]

We just had another Islamic terrorist attack in Turkey and yet the biased liberal news media that keeps down playing the threat of Islamic terrorism is claiming they have no clue who is behind it.