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Thou Shalt Not Use the Name of God in Vain
Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2016 6:44 pm
by Kurieuo
We often miss the point of this, thinking "
God dammit" is what it means.
Listen, however, to this heart-string pulling story of Susan for better insight.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R27pSpWgmBE
Re: Thou Shalt Not Use the Name of God in Vain
Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2016 7:09 pm
by Danieltwotwenty
I agree with the video, I myself was put in a similar situation where my wife was going to leave me unless I denied my faith in Jesus, but I persevered and we are both still together and I still have my faith in Christ. Although my life was not in immediate danger and the situations are a little different, I still think we are put through these types of trials regulary with family, friends, work associates and the like.
I was always taught that taking the Lords name in vain was to associate God with evil, which I guess to deny Jesus is a form of evil.
Re: Thou Shalt Not Use the Name of God in Vain
Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2016 11:36 am
by jpbg33
it aggravates me when I here so called Christians using God's name in vain. if you are a real Christian you well not do that.
it start by using his name in any from reverently and like the video said it goes so much farther. All of it is wrong.
love the video.
Re: Thou Shalt Not Use the Name of God in Vain
Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2016 12:49 pm
by RickD
jpbg33 wrote:it aggravates me when I here so called Christians using God's name in vain. if you are a real Christian you well not do that.
it start by using his name in any from reverently and like the video said it goes so much farther. All of it is wrong.
love the video.
Saying, "God damnit" is not using God's name in vain. "God" is not God's name.
Re: Thou Shalt Not Use the Name of God in Vain
Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2016 12:57 pm
by Philip
Saying, "God damnit" is not using God's name in vain. "God" is not God's name.
Technicality. It ain't good, that's for sure.
Re: Thou Shalt Not Use the Name of God in Vain
Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2016 1:40 pm
by jpbg33
that is just cursing. The same thing Peter did when he denied Christ. Why did Peter do that because it is obvious that followers of Christ wouldn't do that.
Re: Thou Shalt Not Use the Name of God in Vain
Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2016 2:11 pm
by RickD
jpbg33 wrote:that is just cursing. The same thing Peter did when he denied Christ. Why did Peter do that because it is obvious that followers of Christ wouldn't do that.
Ah, the No True Scotsman fallacy. Got it.
Re: Thou Shalt Not Use the Name of God in Vain
Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2016 2:24 pm
by Jac3510
Can't watch video at work, but I suggest that verse is understood to mean, "Don't say you are a believer and not act like it." The word "take" is better translated "receive" (which, by the way, is how the LXX renders it), and the word "in vain" has the idea of "without effect." Fairly obvious what it means in that regard. I can see from the headline of the video how that would fit nicely with the idea of persecution being an easy context to take the Lord's name in vain -- you took His name, you identify with it, and then you deny it and Him when it matters. Again, just guessing that's what the video says.
Re: Thou Shalt Not Use the Name of God in Vain
Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2016 5:39 am
by PaulSacramento
To say "goddamnit" is to ask God to damn something.
It's just that simple.
It is not wholly appropriate to request God to damn anyone or anything, though at times understandable out of frustration BUT it is not taking God's name in vain.
I agree with others that to deny God ( as a believer)is to take His name in vain but I would also that to do something or say something IN God's name and not do it, that would be taking His name in vain also.
Re: Thou Shalt Not Use the Name of God in Vain
Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2016 9:10 am
by jpbg33
Y'all don't get it. If the bible says not to do something then you are not to do that. Your not to look for some underlining meaning and forget what it say directly not to do. When people say the word Y'all are using the last thing on there minds is God doing anything. People say that while out on the golf course and at football games and when the car wont start. Do you really think they are wanting God to destroy there competitors or there cars or what ever else they are saying it over.
Of curse not.
If you are a real Christian you will not use His name in vain. When you use Gods name it is support to mean something it is not a by word.
look at how far off y'all are the bible say to not do something, and what are y'all doing setting around trying to come up with some reason of why you really can do it.
You are not to Use God's name in Vain by word or action. If you half way do something you really didn't do it. Think of it like this. If I half way start my car I didn't start it.
We shouldn't be looking for a hidden meaning and over look the obvious meaning.
Re: Thou Shalt Not Use the Name of God in Vain
Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2016 9:38 am
by Kurieuo
I personally like invoking God's name, and Jesus', because it reminds me of the One I acknowledge and love.
Re: Thou Shalt Not Use the Name of God in Vain
Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2016 10:34 am
by jpbg33
So you are saying that you like to do something that someone you love asked you not to do because it reminds you that you love them.
maybe that is how you are but am I the only one that sees that as strange logic.
Re: Thou Shalt Not Use the Name of God in Vain
Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2016 11:02 am
by RickD
jpbg33 wrote:Y'all don't get it. If the bible says not to do something then you are not to do that. Your not to look for some underlining meaning and forget what it say directly not to do. When people say the word Y'all are using the last thing on there minds is God doing anything. People say that while out on the golf course and at football games and when the car wont start. Do you really think they are wanting God to destroy there competitors or there cars or what ever else they are saying it over.
Of curse not.
If you are a real Christian you will not use His name in vain. When you use Gods name it is support to mean something it is not a by word.
look at how far off y'all are the bible say to not do something, and what are y'all doing setting around trying to come up with some reason of why you really can do it.
You are not to Use God's name in Vain by word or action. If you half way do something you really didn't do it. Think of it like this. If I half way start my car I didn't start it.
We shouldn't be looking for a hidden meaning and over look the obvious meaning.
I'll tell you one thing, I don't think any of us can argue with that kind of logic!
Re: Thou Shalt Not Use the Name of God in Vain
Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2016 11:46 am
by jpbg33
do you see something wrong with my logic or are you agreeing with me.
and what about his logic? you didn't answer my question.
Re: Thou Shalt Not Use the Name of God in Vain
Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2016 11:50 am
by RickD
jpbg33 wrote:do you see something wrong with my logic or are you agreeing with me.
and what about his logic? you didn't answer my question.
I don't see any reason whatsoever, as to why anyone should argue with your logic!