The Most Wild View On Creation
Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2016 2:04 pm
Hi there, my name is Josh, and what I am about to present and propose for review and helpful criticism is the wildest theory you will ever hear of in creation. Yet, I think it might be true and very comprehensive in scope with scientific data. To prepare you for what you shall read, think of the gap theory plus progressive creation plus young earth creation plus the plain text of the KJV.
In between Genesis 1:1 and 1:2 is a gap.
Genesis 1:2 has the earth, "without form, and void" with "darkness" over the watery earth. Without form means that the earth did not have a definite form to it. There was no solid land, only water. Jeremiah was given a vision of the Genesis 1:2 earth in this state and he clarifies what happened to make the earth like this, "I beheld the earth, and, lo, it was without form, and void; and the heavens, and they had no light. I beheld the mountains, and, lo, they trembled, and all the hills moved lightly. I beheld, and, lo, there was no man, and all the birds of the heavens were fled. I beheld, and, lo, the fruitful place was a wilderness, and all the cities thereof were broken down at the presence of the LORD, and by his fierce anger." (Jeremiah 4:23-26). It is often claimed that Jeremiah is speaking of the land of Israel, not the whole earth. But Jeremiah beheld the earth and saw that it was WITHOUT FORM (without a solid structure). It was filled with water. The mountains and hills in this vision must then have been underwater. If Jeremiah is speaking of the earth at Genesis 1:2, then it is clear that the earth was judged by God. This means there must be a gap of an indeterminate amount of time between Genesis 1:1 and Genesis 1:2. This gap could last for 4 billion years or so.
God progressively created animals in the gap.
The biggest objection to the gap theory is that it only offers one giant cataclysm to explain the fossil record, which is what YEC propose the flood of Noah did. But there is an answer: Psalm 104. In Psalm 104, God explains that throughout history, He has killed animal species and recreated them (possibly into other species), "Thou hidest thy face, they are troubled: thou takest away their breath, they die, and return to their dust. Thou sendest forth thy spirit, they are created: and thou renewest the face of the earth." (Psalm 104:29-30). This is what happened during the gap. At the beginning of creation, God made men (today known as angels, but still referred to as "men" in scripture) and the Cambrian animals. The men never died, for there was no sin. Eons later, God destroyed the Cambrian animals and then recreated them into Ordovician animals. And so on for billions of years. But the men never died. That is until the Tertiary period, when Lucifer rebelled against God, which caused God to destroy the entire earth with a flood. Since the earth in 2 Peter 3 is described as being out of the water and in the water, there must have been water above the surface of the earth. It was this water that God simply allowed to come down on the pre-Adamite world. It wouldn't be too destructive to the earth (thus preserving the fossil record), only to the inhabitants. Plus, with water just coming down, there would not be much burial of the men before Adam. Thus, they would decompose at their death, where afterwards they became spirits.
The days of creation (or recreation) are literal 24 hour days.
I just can't get over the evening and morning stuff.
Noah's flood was worldwide but non-catastrophic.
I'm interested in this guy's explanation of it apparently happening with geysers, which would leave little to no evidence behind of Noah's flood: http://kjvbible.org/geysers.html
Also, Noah's flood can not be as YEC describe it, which is, as completely rearranging landmasses. For, Genesis 2 states, "And a river went out of Eden to water the garden; and from thence it was parted, and became into four heads. 11 The name of the first is Pison: that is it which compasseth the whole land of Havilah, where there is gold; 12 And the gold of that land is good: there is bdellium and the onyx stone. 13 And the name of the second river is Gihon: the same is it that compasseth the whole land of Ethiopia. 14 And the name of the third river is Hiddekel: that is it which goeth toward the east of Assyria. And the fourth river is Euphrates." (Genesis 2:10-14). Notice it doesn't say that these rivers WERE (past tense) Pison, Gihon, Hiddekel, and Euphrates. Moses says that the names of each river "IS" (present tense, when Moses was alive) there. This means the worldwide flood could not have reorganized the landmasses. It would just overflood the world, until the water receded only to reveal the same landmasses and river systems.
Dinosaurs were in the gap...and alongside with Adam
The dinosaurs would have existed in the gap, then destroyed, only to be recreated in "creation week", which is why the Bible mentions "dragons", why there is soft recent dinosaur tissue, and why many dinosaur fossils date to millions of years ago.
Thoughts?
In between Genesis 1:1 and 1:2 is a gap.
Genesis 1:2 has the earth, "without form, and void" with "darkness" over the watery earth. Without form means that the earth did not have a definite form to it. There was no solid land, only water. Jeremiah was given a vision of the Genesis 1:2 earth in this state and he clarifies what happened to make the earth like this, "I beheld the earth, and, lo, it was without form, and void; and the heavens, and they had no light. I beheld the mountains, and, lo, they trembled, and all the hills moved lightly. I beheld, and, lo, there was no man, and all the birds of the heavens were fled. I beheld, and, lo, the fruitful place was a wilderness, and all the cities thereof were broken down at the presence of the LORD, and by his fierce anger." (Jeremiah 4:23-26). It is often claimed that Jeremiah is speaking of the land of Israel, not the whole earth. But Jeremiah beheld the earth and saw that it was WITHOUT FORM (without a solid structure). It was filled with water. The mountains and hills in this vision must then have been underwater. If Jeremiah is speaking of the earth at Genesis 1:2, then it is clear that the earth was judged by God. This means there must be a gap of an indeterminate amount of time between Genesis 1:1 and Genesis 1:2. This gap could last for 4 billion years or so.
God progressively created animals in the gap.
The biggest objection to the gap theory is that it only offers one giant cataclysm to explain the fossil record, which is what YEC propose the flood of Noah did. But there is an answer: Psalm 104. In Psalm 104, God explains that throughout history, He has killed animal species and recreated them (possibly into other species), "Thou hidest thy face, they are troubled: thou takest away their breath, they die, and return to their dust. Thou sendest forth thy spirit, they are created: and thou renewest the face of the earth." (Psalm 104:29-30). This is what happened during the gap. At the beginning of creation, God made men (today known as angels, but still referred to as "men" in scripture) and the Cambrian animals. The men never died, for there was no sin. Eons later, God destroyed the Cambrian animals and then recreated them into Ordovician animals. And so on for billions of years. But the men never died. That is until the Tertiary period, when Lucifer rebelled against God, which caused God to destroy the entire earth with a flood. Since the earth in 2 Peter 3 is described as being out of the water and in the water, there must have been water above the surface of the earth. It was this water that God simply allowed to come down on the pre-Adamite world. It wouldn't be too destructive to the earth (thus preserving the fossil record), only to the inhabitants. Plus, with water just coming down, there would not be much burial of the men before Adam. Thus, they would decompose at their death, where afterwards they became spirits.
The days of creation (or recreation) are literal 24 hour days.
I just can't get over the evening and morning stuff.
Noah's flood was worldwide but non-catastrophic.
I'm interested in this guy's explanation of it apparently happening with geysers, which would leave little to no evidence behind of Noah's flood: http://kjvbible.org/geysers.html
Also, Noah's flood can not be as YEC describe it, which is, as completely rearranging landmasses. For, Genesis 2 states, "And a river went out of Eden to water the garden; and from thence it was parted, and became into four heads. 11 The name of the first is Pison: that is it which compasseth the whole land of Havilah, where there is gold; 12 And the gold of that land is good: there is bdellium and the onyx stone. 13 And the name of the second river is Gihon: the same is it that compasseth the whole land of Ethiopia. 14 And the name of the third river is Hiddekel: that is it which goeth toward the east of Assyria. And the fourth river is Euphrates." (Genesis 2:10-14). Notice it doesn't say that these rivers WERE (past tense) Pison, Gihon, Hiddekel, and Euphrates. Moses says that the names of each river "IS" (present tense, when Moses was alive) there. This means the worldwide flood could not have reorganized the landmasses. It would just overflood the world, until the water receded only to reveal the same landmasses and river systems.
Dinosaurs were in the gap...and alongside with Adam
The dinosaurs would have existed in the gap, then destroyed, only to be recreated in "creation week", which is why the Bible mentions "dragons", why there is soft recent dinosaur tissue, and why many dinosaur fossils date to millions of years ago.
Thoughts?