Evidence for God from Science

Atheists, agnostics...

If there was a God, would He be responsible for your lack of faith in Him?

Nessa wrote:Atheists, agnostics...

If there was a God, would He be responsible for your lack of faith in Him?

People are responsible for themselves, the acts they commit and what they choose to believe or not believe.

PaulSacramento wrote:

Nessa wrote:Atheists, agnostics...

If there was a God, would He be responsible for your lack of faith in Him?

People are responsible for themselves, the acts they commit and what they choose to believe or not believe.

Choose to believe?

PaulSacramento wrote:

Nessa wrote:Atheists, agnostics...

If there was a God, would He be responsible for your lack of faith in Him?

People are responsible for themselves, the acts they commit and what they choose to believe or not believe.

I believe audie once said something about not being able to simply choose to believe (please correct me if I'm wrong, audie) so it got me thinking....

If you feel you cant make yourself believe and there is a God, then whose to blame for your unbelief?

I'm directing this question at atheists and agnostics.

Nessa wrote:I'm directing this question at atheists and agnostics.

Forgive me, milady.

RickD wrote:

Nessa wrote:I'm directing this question at atheists and agnostics.

Forgive me, milady.

You're forgiven..
Now stop kissing my feet and fetch me some wine in my favourite goblet

Nessa wrote:

PaulSacramento wrote:

Nessa wrote:Atheists, agnostics...

If there was a God, would He be responsible for your lack of faith in Him?

People are responsible for themselves, the acts they commit and what they choose to believe or not believe.

I believe audie once said something about not being able to simply choose to believe (please correct me if I'm wrong, audie) so it got me thinking....

If you feel you cant make yourself believe and there is a God, then whose to blame for your unbelief?

To blame?

You look at things from what seem to me such an odd pov.

In the dept of responsible, btw-

My Dad quoted Admiral Rickover saying "If you are not responsible, you are irresponsible".

Nessa wrote:Atheists, agnostics...

If there was a God, would He be responsible for your lack of faith in Him?

If we assume God exists and he wants us to know he exists, then I would say he is to blame for whatever non-belief one might have. However if God exists, I would not assume he wants us to know he exists because of how well he has remained hidden; thus there would be no blame because it is all by design.

Ken

Kenny wrote:

Nessa wrote:Atheists, agnostics...

If there was a God, would He be responsible for your lack of faith in Him?

If we assume God exists and he wants us to know he exists, then I would say he is to blame for whatever non-belief one might have. However if God exists, I would not assume he wants us to know he exists because of how well he has remained hidden; thus there would be no blame because it is all by design.

Ken

Perhaps you meant to write:
I would not assume he wants us to know he exists because of how well he has APPEARED TO remained hidden TO SOME; thus there would be no blame because it is all by design

Kenny wrote:

Nessa wrote:Atheists, agnostics...

If there was a God, would He be responsible for your lack of faith in Him?

If we assume God exists and he wants us to know he exists, then I would say he is to blame for whatever non-belief one might have. However if God exists, I would not assume he wants us to know he exists because of how well he has remained hidden; thus there would be no blame because it is all by design.

Ken

A man left his home the forest and traveled to a far away land where there were no forest. If one walked away from the trees in the forest and chose to live in a desert, does the forest still exist?

One can deny the existence of trees only at the expense of ignoring the evidence that trees exist.

Who walked away from whom would be a better question and why.
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Audie wrote:

Nessa wrote:

PaulSacramento wrote:

Nessa wrote:Atheists, agnostics...

If there was a God, would He be responsible for your lack of faith in Him?

People are responsible for themselves, the acts they commit and what they choose to believe or not believe.

I believe audie once said something about not being able to simply choose to believe (please correct me if I'm wrong, audie) so it got me thinking....

If you feel you cant make yourself believe and there is a God, then whose to blame for your unbelief?

To blame?

You look at things from what seem to me such an odd pov.

In the dept of responsible, btw-

My Dad quoted Admiral Rickover saying "If you are not responsible, you are irresponsible".

As an odd person, how can I have anything but an odd pov?

So are you saying that if you die not believing, you wouldnt blame God for that?

You would be seperated from him for eternity and it would be your responsibility?

Kenny wrote:

Nessa wrote:Atheists, agnostics...

If there was a God, would He be responsible for your lack of faith in Him?

If we assume God exists and he wants us to know he exists, then I would say he is to blame for whatever non-belief one might have. However if God exists, I would not assume he wants us to know he exists because of how well he has remained hidden; thus there would be no blame because it is all by design.

Ken

Thats the kinda response I was expecting some to have.

Maybe I could choose to believe God does not exist so that I can give an answer to the OP.

Trying to believe God doesn't exist . . .

Trying . . .

Still trying . . .

Trying really, really, really hard . . .

Well. That was a waste of time. Sorry, Nessa. Couldn't do it. Pretend I didn't post this.

PaulSacramento wrote:

Kenny wrote:

Nessa wrote:Atheists, agnostics...

If there was a God, would He be responsible for your lack of faith in Him?

If we assume God exists and he wants us to know he exists, then I would say he is to blame for whatever non-belief one might have. However if God exists, I would not assume he wants us to know he exists because of how well he has remained hidden; thus there would be no blame because it is all by design.

Ken

Perhaps you meant to write:
I would not assume he wants us to know he exists because of how well he has APPEARED TO remained hidden TO SOME; thus there would be no blame because it is all by design

Naaw I meant it the way I wrote it. Your response is the way a typical theist would respond; mine is the way a typical atheist would respond. I think Nessa was clear she was looking for an atheists/agnostic perspective.

Ken