Evidence for God from Science

I have a question that might lead into a good discussion - Do You Think The Bible Is 100% Divinely Inspired By God? To me, I think it is about 70% inspired and I say this because if you read the Bible and a certain law or sin isn't mentioned more than a number of times I would count it as questionable or non-inspired. I believe the Old Testement is composed of partial stories since this was the authors thing back then, but that is my opinion. Also it is true that some scientific data we did not know about 100 years ago could have been carefully observed by the authors of each book in the Bible. If they see the moon, they see a round object in the sky hanging by nothing, other religions have wishful thinking to say that a MYTHICAL God was holding up the moon. They relate back to this to our planet and can write this in the Bible, but then again, they can't see our entire planet from where they are standing because they are on it already and they don't know for sure. There are other discoveries in the Bible that could look like scientific data but is better off being just something someone observed and then proven. The real point though, is we plainly don't know unless there was a way to go back in time.

- Brian

I'm not sure I understand... ahh... if something isn't mentioned at least more than once, than it can't be trusted? But then, how does mentioning something a number of times reveal the words to be divinely inspired...?

If I understand correctly, you believe the original authors were divinely inspired, yet what we have today may not be an accurate copy of what the authors originally wrote? So the question to answer isn't so much whether what we currently have is 100% inspired, but whether what we have is a reliable copy of the original signatures (writings) which you believe were fully inspired? Am I correct here, or...?

Kurieuo.

Brian, your positions are self-contradictory:

To me, I think it is about 70% inspired and I say this because if you read the Bible and a certain law or sin isn't mentioned more than a number of times I would count it as questionable or non-inspired.

The real point though, is we plainly don't know unless there was a way to go back in time.

So you have faith in your assumption that the Bible is about 70% inspired (can you please show us the passages which were inspired and those that were not, and your reasons for saying so), but your belief is based on an assumption that we cannot know for sure.

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Kurieuo wrote:I'm not sure I understand... ahh... if something isn't mentioned at least more than once, than it can't be trusted? But then, how does mentioning something a number of times reveal the words to be divinely inspired...?

If I understand correctly, you believe the original authors were divinely inspired, yet what we have today may not be an accurate copy of what the authors originally wrote? So the question to answer isn't so much whether what we currently have is 100% inspired, but whether what we have is a reliable copy of the original signatures (writings) which you believe were fully inspired? Am I correct here, or...?

Kurieuo.

Hello Kurieuo, I came up with this reasoning based on what I was tought by my Christian parents, my dad especially. My dad says that if you read the scriptures you will find some passages on sin or commandments or whatever is mentioned maybe once or twice but you will find other passages that mention something many many times, my dad says this is what constitutes to true inspiration from God because it is very important. If something isn't mentioned more than once or twice it COULD be uninspired because I would assume the writers back then wouldn't really know for sure what is really important and what isn't that really important. If you figure I was God, I would inspire the writer to write something over and over to make sure the reader knows that what is being said is very important, and it is possible that the authors added in what wasn't inspired by God to add to things in life that should be followed based on experiences back then. Like I said, if it isn't mentioned more than once or twice or maybe a third time, it is possible that it wouldn't be inspired by God because the authors didn't know what else to add to the Bible but a small sample of what life should be outside of what God wants in the areas of sins and the commandments. This is my own family's opinion though, so if you don't agree, that 100% okay with me .

- Brian

I believe that Gods word is 100% inspired by God.
Translations could be a problem, but god instructed us to study and research to prove all. So that ball is in our court.
For example in Genisis we read about creation, the question becomes in the translation, is Yowm (day) taken as literally as in 24 hours or figuratively as in an associated space of time. Our job is to find which one fits the evidence best. remember god instructed us to check all, Science supports that the translated meaning should be taken figuratively not literally.
As Christians our desire is to learn to live lives that are 100% inspired by God. if we believe that his Word is only 70% inspired do we aspire to live a life that is only 70% inspired by God?

The Bible is either inspired 0% or 100%. I choose the latter.

"All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness" (2 Ti. 3:16, ESV)

Ignoring everything else, you have this simple verse. Either the Bible is inspired or it isn't. In fact, Brian, this verse tells us something more. The ESV (and the NIV, for that matter) has a great translation here. "breathed out by God" or "God-breathed" is the most literally we can interpret theopneustos. "Inspired" isn't a good word, because it can give the idea that God took a given writing and invested authority into it. However, the real idea behind this verse is that the Bible is the product of God. What God "breathed out" is the Scripture.

Therefore, if any part of the Bible is "uninspired," then it, by definition, is not Scripture. Therefore, the Bible IS 100% inspired.

You, then, are going to have to prove that certain parts of the Bible are, in fact, not Scripture, and that everyone from time immemorial, including Jesus, has had it wrong! Go through and look at how often He references Scripture. He authenticates the whole of the Old Testament (search for "the Law and Prophets" in your Bible), and the NT is very, very well attested to.

So, I don't think you are holding to a very good position here . . .