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The exclusiveness of Christianity

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 11:32 am
by Nessa
How do you non Christians feel about the exclusiveness of Christianity?

Discussion open for all though.

Re: The exclusiveness of Christianity

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 3:28 pm
by RickD
Nessa wrote:How do you non Christians feel about the exclusiveness of Christianity?

Discussion open for all though.
It's not exclusive. Anyone can accept God's free gift of salvation in Jesus Christ.

That whoever believes in him...

Re: The exclusiveness of Christianity

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 3:39 pm
by Nessa
RickD wrote:
Nessa wrote:How do you non Christians feel about the exclusiveness of Christianity?

Discussion open for all though.
It's not exclusive. Anyone can accept God's free gift of salvation in Jesus Christ.

That whoever believes in him...
I disagree, although I do agree the offer is open to anyone. That is why I said in another thread that christianity is ultimately exclusive. Now some will look at that as unfair and in worldly terms perhaps it might be.

What makes it exclusive is that Christianity is on God's terms only. And his terms, while open to everyone, is living by his rules or at least trying to. And also be willing to change. We are not saved by works but grace also is not a licence to willfully sin either as Paul says.

Edit: When I say rules I am refering to the way he tells us to live and not in the sense that we are under the law.

Re: The exclusiveness of Christianity

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 3:51 pm
by RickD
Nessa wrote:
RickD wrote:
Nessa wrote:How do you non Christians feel about the exclusiveness of Christianity?

Discussion open for all though.
It's not exclusive. Anyone can accept God's free gift of salvation in Jesus Christ.

That whoever believes in him...
I disagree, although I do agree the offer is open to anyone. That is why I said in another thread that christianity is ultimately exclusive. Now some will look at that as unfair and in worldly terms perhaps it might be.

What makes it exclusive is that Christianity is on God's terms only. And his terms, while open to everyone, is living by his rules or at least trying to. And also be willing to change. We are not saved by works but grace also is not a licence to willfully sin either as Paul says.

Edit: When I say rules I am refering to the way he tells us to live and not in the sense that we are under the law.
I think you disagree because we have different meanings of "Christianity" and "exclusive".
:lol:

Re: The exclusiveness of Christianity

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 3:58 pm
by Nessa
I think Ravi has addressed this before, that while Christianity is exclusive so are other faiths.

Re: The exclusiveness of Christianity

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 4:01 pm
by Nessa

Re: The exclusiveness of Christianity

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 5:45 pm
by RickD
After watching the video, we are defining exclusiveness/exclusivity differently.

Can you see the difference?

I think we are both correct, depending on the definition.

Re: The exclusiveness of Christianity

Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2017 7:14 pm
by abelcainsbrother
Nessa wrote:
RickD wrote:
Nessa wrote:How do you non Christians feel about the exclusiveness of Christianity?

Discussion open for all though.
It's not exclusive. Anyone can accept God's free gift of salvation in Jesus Christ.

That whoever believes in him...
I disagree, although I do agree the offer is open to anyone. That is why I said in another thread that christianity is ultimately exclusive. Now some will look at that as unfair and in worldly terms perhaps it might be.

What makes it exclusive is that Christianity is on God's terms only. And his terms, while open to everyone, is living by his rules or at least trying to. And also be willing to change. We are not saved by works but grace also is not a licence to willfully sin either as Paul says.

Edit: When I say rules I am refering to the way he tells us to live and not in the sense that we are under the law.

Sin Can Be Resistable.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ePN_YE7dmQs

And

Can We Drive Our Sins Too Far?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6RAoj6oM_kw

Re: The exclusiveness of Christianity

Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2017 8:15 pm
by patrick
Someone once told me that in order to get Christianity, you have to initially take a leap of faith. This idea of exclusivity kinda reminds me of that, because I think from a secular/"modern" perspective the idea of there being one right way, God's way, brings up all these moral and logical objections as if God's way was of questionable worth and thus not truly good.

In the earlier days of my faith, I still thought this way, and so I thought the alternative to God's way (hell) wasn't as bad as people made it out to be -- IOW that really there is just a big choice to make between doing things God's way and doing things your own way. Over time though I realized that whatever the alternative to God's way is would ultimately have to be, well, not good. Someone might still geniunely want something bad, but I think this only comes about through being attached to what is ultimately suffering. Kinda like being addicted to an emotional cigarette.

But I guess as long as it seems normal and valid to you, it feels wrong to have to give it up in favor of God's way.