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Commentary: Democrats shameful performance proves why normal Americans despise your party
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Trump lost the popular vote by almost 3 million, which means that he's either defining "normal Americans" as "less than half of voters" or he's just full of [poop].

edwardmurphy wrote:Trump lost the popular vote by almost 3 million, which means that he's either defining "normal Americans" as "less than half of voters" or he's just full of [poop].

Trump lost the popular vote in California, by over 4 million. Since we'd all agree that Californians are anything but normal Americans, if we delete the popular vote in CA, trump would've won the popular vote in America.

edwardmurphy wrote:Trump lost the popular vote by almost 3 million, which means that he's either defining "normal Americans" as "less than half of voters" or he's just full of [poop].

Oh yeah,you've been listening to fake news. You believe the Russia conspiracy theory that Russia helped Trump win but don't know about vote fraud where illegals are given drivers licenses so that they can vote.The Democrats cheated and yet still lost this means the popular vote is nullified just from cheating.Alex Jones explained that only a landslide win can defeat vote fraud and election fraud and that is how Trump won despite allowing illegals to vote which is cheating.It is why the popular vote is so high and yet Trump won that we know there was vote fraud.It also explains the shock of Democrats that they lost and how they have acted like five year olds pitching a fit because Trump won. It is because they cheated,they know it and they still lost.

And again, your entire post is counterfactual. I could explain why, but frankly it would be akin to trying to explain area codes to a ferret. Stay safe in your cocoon of lies.

edwardmurphy wrote:And again, your entire post is counterfactual. I could explain why, but frankly it would be akin to trying to explain area codes to a ferret. Stay safe in your cocoon of lies.

How can certian counties vote 100% for Hillary?Plus we know that the primary was stolen away from Bernie,so Democrats and the media do cheat and they choose for Democrats who they get,not Democrat voters and it still going on with Perez winning the DNC.The DNC chooses,not the people and yet you don't even know about this.But wikileaks proved it, yet the media go on like nothing is wrong.

I don't know, but before I give it any thought you'll need to prove that it happened.

edwardmurphy wrote:I don't know, but before I give it any thought you'll need to prove that it happened.

Well,this is old news now. I'm going from pure memory right now about what was exposed.I'd have to do some digging.Not only do wikileaks prove that the DNC and the media work together but we have Democrat superdelagets on tape explaining that it does not matter how the people vote the delegates will still go to Hillary and she will win and we all watched Bernie win about 10 states and just like they had said months before the delegates still went to Hillary. But also,Seth Rich had filed papers for fraud,he ran the Bernie campaign and was mysteriously shot in the back and assassinated and yet nothing from the media about it,including Fox News although Sean Hannity talked about some of it.But even he has gone silent now about it and yet it needs to be investigated.Also all of them donations to Bernie Sanders from his supporters went to the DNC.

You edited your post. I was talking about your claim of multiple counties that went 100% for Clinton.

edwardmurphy wrote:You edited your post. I was talking about your claim of multiple counties that went 100% for Clinton.

Yes,its true.It is old news now though.Why would'nt you believe me? I don't like lies and fake news and I don't intentionally lie.

The thing is, while millions like a lot of things Trump was in support of, they didn't like his crass mouth and crude comments. And he MIGHT be learning, in that area. But those same millions that didn't vote, absolutely despise where the Democrats and Obama have taken us. But the Republican establishment, were too timid to address things directly - thinking they couldn't win if they did. Trump won in spite of his self-inflicted baggage. The Democrats need to realize that America is a Center/Right country. Continuing or increasing extremely progressive and liberal stances - particular those more radical, will only further marginalize the Democratic Party. But a democracy will be far more healthy if there are two parties that have good ideas, that are holding each other accountable for things and policies of good merit. Without a quality opposition, it could be easy for whatever ruling party to simply become the new, complacent, status quo - worried more about its own tenure that about those they serve.

One things is true about Trump, his motivations must come from concern over this country - cause he's a business guy, for whom most such would rather be focused on their own personal business. How much can money motivate a person for whom more money is tough to keep their interest over - and without all the headaches, bureaucracy, and the exhausting task of being president? Course, being president must be huge for those with a big ego - which Trump certainly has. Again, we'll see, hope and pray he does well.

RickD wrote:

edwardmurphy wrote:Trump lost the popular vote by almost 3 million, which means that he's either defining "normal Americans" as "less than half of voters" or he's just full of [poop].

Trump lost the popular vote in California, by over 4 million. Since we'd all agree that Californians are anything but normal Americans, if we delete the popular vote in CA, trump would've won the popular vote in America.

Add in that if the election rules were based upon popular US vote, which allow more populist states to rule other states rather than each state being given fair representation via the electoral college, then Trump's campaign strategy would have been very different. He probably would have won the popular vote rather than the state vote.

People who complain about such now, they're just moving the goal posts after the fact. They weren't complaining before hand when they thought Hillary was most certainly going to win.

Wasn't the final tally mark actually less than 1 million difference? For whatever reason, it took them a MONTH to finally count Michigan, but less than 24 hours to count New York and Cali. Also if you factor in this, minus the dead people + union people busing people to vote in different states + all the mickey and minnie mouse fraud, Trump probably won by a reasonable amount.

Kurieuo wrote:

RickD wrote:

edwardmurphy wrote:Trump lost the popular vote by almost 3 million, which means that he's either defining "normal Americans" as "less than half of voters" or he's just full of [poop].

Trump lost the popular vote in California, by over 4 million. Since we'd all agree that Californians are anything but normal Americans, if we delete the popular vote in CA, trump would've won the popular vote in America.

Add in that if the election rules were based upon popular US vote, which allow more populist states to rule other states rather than each state being given fair representation via the electoral college, then Trump's campaign strategy would have been very different. He probably would have won the popular vote rather than the state vote.

People who complain about such now, they're just moving the goal posts after the fact. They weren't complaining before hand when they thought Hillary was most certainly going to win.

Absolutely. Trump won in the system that's in place. Saying that Hillary had more popular votes is like saying the Falcons won super bowl 51, because they had more fans in the stadium.

The fact that Trump lost the popular vote by three million - not one million - is important because it provides perspective on the political reality in the United States. Trump DID NOT win by a landslide and his victory IS NOT a clear indication that the majority of Americans support his policies. It's actually the opposite. What it shows is that he's the President of a deeply divided country and if he wants broad popular support for his agenda then he's going to have to reach out to the Democratic voters who rejected his platform.

That's not to say he's not legitimately the President - although the Russian hacking and last second FBI leaks combine with the loss of the popular vote to cast a pretty dark cloud over his administration.

The point is that if he wants to avoid 4 years of constant unrest and potentially the loss of the Senate in the midterms he needs to broaden his appeal. That means remembering that his base is not the only constituency that matters.