I don't think so, do you agree? If not, why did Obama do it, and how did Trump find out? And if the Trump people won't
say how they found out, I think it's because they're lying about having found out. Why else?
Did Obama wiretap Trump?
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Re: Did Obama wiretap Trump?
ultimate777 wrote:I don't think so, do you agree? If not, why did Obama do it, and how did Trump find out? And if the Trump people won't
say how they found out, I think it's because they're lying about having found out. Why else?
Trump has evidence that Obama wiretapped his Trump tower and his whole campaign team. It will come out and Trump will be vindicated,while nothing will come of this Russia hack lie. Trump is hitting back those who hit him first like he always has and I guarantee his punch is going to do more damage than their punch has.
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Re: Did Obama wiretap Trump?
.... like he had evidence that Obama was a Kenyan, not born in the US ...abelcainsbrother wrote: Trump has evidence that Obama wiretapped his Trump tower and his whole campaign team. It will come out and Trump will be vindicated ...
.... like he had evidence that Cruz's father was involved in Kennedy's assassination ...
naw abel, just another Trump conspiracy theory.
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Re: Did Obama wiretap Trump?
Besides an emphatic who cares, how's this? Greater chance Obama wiretapped Trump than Russia being responsible for the DNC leaks.
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Re: Did Obama wiretap Trump?
If James Comey said the FBI didn't wiretap Trump, I believe him. Why would the FBI ever do anything illegal? Didn't Comey prove himself trustworthy with the Clinton fiasco?
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Re: Did Obama wiretap Trump?
I think it is extremely unlikely that Obama had Trump wiretapped, and the longer we go with no evidence to support Trump's claim, it becomes more and more likely that this is yet another example of Trumpian 'alternative facts'.
When the media narrative is not going Trump's way, Trump has a history of tweeting something outrageous to change the topic and dominate the media narrative. I think that's probably what is going on here.
Trump was very angry that Session's recusal put the media spotlight back on his campaign's contact with Russia. So true to form, Trump makes something up and tweets something stupid to get the media narrative off of Russia.
This accusation is too big to just fade away.
If Trump is lying to the American people again, then he needs to be held accountable.
The truth will eventually come out.
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When the media narrative is not going Trump's way, Trump has a history of tweeting something outrageous to change the topic and dominate the media narrative. I think that's probably what is going on here.
Trump was very angry that Session's recusal put the media spotlight back on his campaign's contact with Russia. So true to form, Trump makes something up and tweets something stupid to get the media narrative off of Russia.
This accusation is too big to just fade away.
If Trump is lying to the American people again, then he needs to be held accountable.
The truth will eventually come out.
My .02
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Re: Did Obama wiretap Trump?
Hillary started the birther stuff in 08 when she ran against Obama. Did she have evidence? Trump just repeated it. There is evidence Cruz's father may have had something to do with the JFK assassination.Where is the evidence there was collusion with Russia and that Trump has Russian agents working for him? Why the double standard when it comes to things the media has reported without evidence? Do you think it is right for the media to spread lies and slander against Trump? You don't think he has a right to hit back when they spread lies about him? Trump has said he will be vindicated about the wiretapping.Ged wrote:.... like he had evidence that Obama was a Kenyan, not born in the US ...abelcainsbrother wrote: Trump has evidence that Obama wiretapped his Trump tower and his whole campaign team. It will come out and Trump will be vindicated ...
.... like he had evidence that Cruz's father was involved in Kennedy's assassination ...
naw abel, just another Trump conspiracy theory.
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Re: Did Obama wiretap Trump?
Another example of Trumpian 'alternative facts'.abelcainsbrother wrote: Hillary started the birther stuff in 08 when she ran against Obama. Did she have evidence? Trump just repeated it.
And this is why Trump says these things.
Some people will actually believe it.
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Re: Did Obama wiretap Trump?
I have already given evidence that shows it is true before.Politifact is the ones who got it wrong.If Hillary did not use it against Obama then why in 08 at the last debate between Hillary and Obama did Brian Williams of NBC news ask Hillary about it?DBowling wrote:Another example of Trumpian 'alternative facts'.abelcainsbrother wrote: Hillary started the birther stuff in 08 when she ran against Obama. Did she have evidence? Trump just repeated it.
And this is why Trump says these things.
Some people will actually believe it.
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Re: Did Obama wiretap Trump?
No...abelcainsbrother wrote:I have already given evidence that shows it is true before.DBowling wrote:Another example of Trumpian 'alternative facts'.abelcainsbrother wrote: Hillary started the birther stuff in 08 when she ran against Obama. Did she have evidence? Trump just repeated it.
And this is why Trump says these things.
Some people will actually believe it.
I have repeatedly asked for, and you have repeatedly failed to produce any quote from Hillary where she questions whether or not Obama was born in the US.
You have been conned into believing a Trump lie.
That's not my .02
That's a fact
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Re: Did Obama wiretap Trump?
I don't have to have a quote I have Brian Williams asking about it during their last debate. It is evidence that it was used against Obama.It was the start of the birther conspiracy.You're just denying the evidence.Like I said politifact got it wrong and they were called on it too as Trump supporters proved them wrong.DBowling wrote:No...abelcainsbrother wrote:I have already given evidence that shows it is true before.DBowling wrote:Another example of Trumpian 'alternative facts'.abelcainsbrother wrote: Hillary started the birther stuff in 08 when she ran against Obama. Did she have evidence? Trump just repeated it.
And this is why Trump says these things.
Some people will actually believe it.
I have repeatedly asked for, and you have repeatedly failed to produce any quote from Hillary where she questions whether or not Obama was born in the US.
You have been conned into believing a Trump lie.
That's not my .02
That's a fact
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Re: Did Obama wiretap Trump?
abelcainsbrother wrote:I don't have to have a quoteDBowling wrote: I have repeatedly asked for, and you have repeatedly failed to produce any quote from Hillary where she questions whether or not Obama was born in the US.
You have been conned into believing a Trump lie.
That's not my .02
That's a fact
Of course you don't...
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Re: Did Obama wiretap Trump?
It is wrong to overlook lies and slander just because you don't like Trump.I support Trump because of his truthfulness compared to typical politicians and the media. George W Bush never defended himself,never spoke out against Obama and yet he comes out and attacks Trump? He is just proving Roger Stone right about how the Clinton's and the Bush's have been friends for years and Roger Stone helped George W Bush beat Al Gore.They are the liars and they keep on slinging lies and slander against Trump like we have never seen before.Trump has both parties against him,the media and the globalists and he is still winning.And he is winning because he does not just sit back and take it like is typical,he hits back.
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Re: Did Obama wiretap Trump?
And its equally wrong to overlook Trump's lies and slander just because you like Trump.abelcainsbrother wrote:It is wrong to overlook lies and slander just because you don't like Trump.
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Re: Did Obama wiretap Trump?
They are really hard to see from all of the lies and slander being thrown at Trump althroughout the election and even now.And yet Trump is still winning.You have to be nit-picking unfairly.DBowling wrote:And its equally wrong to overlook Trump's lies and slander just because you like Trump.abelcainsbrother wrote:It is wrong to overlook lies and slander just because you don't like Trump.
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