"The heavens declare the glory of God; the skies proclaim the work of his hands." (Psalm 19:1)
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Haha yeah, but if we realize that our society's going down that way, then maybe we can help to stop it.IceMobster wrote:1984 was a warning, not an instruction manual!
Yes, I know what you mean. Hopefully such nonsense reaches my country never.thatkidakayoungguy wrote:Haha yeah, but if we realize that our society's going down that way, then maybe we can help to stop it.IceMobster wrote:1984 was a warning, not an instruction manual!
Already political correctness are making words banned that might be offensive-not sensible bans like the n word but simple everyday words. I also see double standards, blacks can say the n word but no one else can yet we're supposed to be equal.
I fear political correctness will make thoughtcrime a reality. How, idk, but maybe they'll have technology someday that can read minds.
I'm not sure where you're at but West Europe seems to be getting more like this.IceMobster wrote:Yes, I know what you mean. Hopefully such nonsense reaches my country never.thatkidakayoungguy wrote:Haha yeah, but if we realize that our society's going down that way, then maybe we can help to stop it.IceMobster wrote:1984 was a warning, not an instruction manual!
Already political correctness are making words banned that might be offensive-not sensible bans like the n word but simple everyday words. I also see double standards, blacks can say the n word but no one else can yet we're supposed to be equal.
I fear political correctness will make thoughtcrime a reality. How, idk, but maybe they'll have technology someday that can read minds.
It's strange to me that so many people worry about Orwell's vision while failing to notice that we've been living in Huxley's brave, new world for years. We're surrounded by so much evidence, but people can't see the forest for the trees...thatkidakayoungguy wrote:I think this society is getting more like 1984
RickD wrote:We need more 1984.
The music was amazing.
http://www.billboard.com/photos/6296342 ... ms-of-1984
I haven't read his book nor have I researched much about it, so I wouldn't know.edwardmurphy wrote:It's strange to me that so many people worry about Orwell's vision while failing to notice that we've been living in Huxley's brave, new world for years. We're surrounded by so much evidence, but people can't see the forest for the trees...thatkidakayoungguy wrote:I think this society is getting more like 1984
Anyway, it's a short book. It's worth a read.Social critic Neil Postman wrote: What Orwell feared were those who would ban books. What Huxley feared was that there would be no reason to ban a book, for there would be no one who wanted to read one. Orwell feared those who would deprive us of information. Huxley feared those who would give us so much that we would be reduced to passivity and egotism. Orwell feared that the truth would be concealed from us. Huxley feared the truth would be drowned in a sea of irrelevance. Orwell feared we would become a captive culture. Huxley feared we would become a trivial culture, preoccupied with some equivalent of the feelies, the orgy porgy, and the centrifugal bumblepuppy. As Huxley remarked in Brave New World Revisited, the civil libertarians and rationalists who are ever on the alert to oppose tyranny "failed to take into account man's almost infinite appetite for distractions." In 1984, Orwell added, people are controlled by inflicting pain. In Brave New World, they are controlled by inflicting pleasure. In short, Orwell feared that our fear will ruin us. Huxley feared that our desire will ruin us.
You're right, we are in that type of society.edwardmurphy wrote:This is from Wikipedia. I think it covers the difference pretty well.
Anyway, it's a short book. It's worth a read.Social critic Neil Postman wrote: What Orwell feared were those who would ban books. What Huxley feared was that there would be no reason to ban a book, for there would be no one who wanted to read one. Orwell feared those who would deprive us of information. Huxley feared those who would give us so much that we would be reduced to passivity and egotism. Orwell feared that the truth would be concealed from us. Huxley feared the truth would be drowned in a sea of irrelevance. Orwell feared we would become a captive culture. Huxley feared we would become a trivial culture, preoccupied with some equivalent of the feelies, the orgy porgy, and the centrifugal bumblepuppy. As Huxley remarked in Brave New World Revisited, the civil libertarians and rationalists who are ever on the alert to oppose tyranny "failed to take into account man's almost infinite appetite for distractions." In 1984, Orwell added, people are controlled by inflicting pain. In Brave New World, they are controlled by inflicting pleasure. In short, Orwell feared that our fear will ruin us. Huxley feared that our desire will ruin us.