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clip from matt dillahunty matt slick debate

Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 2:28 pm
by bippy123
Im not by any means a matt slick fan but he really makes a great argument here on atheism and the justification of the laws of logic from the worldview

youtube.com/watch?v=ivxsca_1fmk

Re: clip from matt dillahunty matt slick debate

Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 3:21 pm
by abelcainsbrother
bippy123 wrote:Im not by any means a matt slick fan but he really makes a great argument here on atheism and the justification of the laws of logic from the worldview

youtube.com/watch?v=ivxsca_1fmk
Thanks and I agree.I recognize that there are many ways we can make a case for God over atheism,I just don't prefer the Presupp arguments myself,however they can be effective.I still say that shockofGod who is a former atheist made much more of an impact when he called into Matt Dillahunty or "The atheist experience" and asked them for proof and evidence atheism is accurate and correct and it has been seven years now and he has continued to challenge every atheists he can to provide proof and evidence atheism is accurate and correct and not one atheist ever has. I mean it is a question that atheists do not want to be confronted with and there only reponse is to explain how atheism is not a claim and so they don't have to provide proof and evidence atheism is accurate and correct,admitting to everybody that they have absolutely no proof and evidence atheism is accurate and correct.

Here is shockofGod giving his testimony about why he left atheism and him continuing to challenge atheists to give proof and evidence atheism is accurate and correct.Even William Lane Craig is starting to bring this type of an argument into his debates with atheists also.

Why I left Atheism
https://youtu.be/CdJJ4vzGbIE

Re: clip from matt dillahunty matt slick debate

Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 4:27 pm
by bippy123
I like the shocker . I've been following his you tube videos for years . He's got a cool bike too lol

Re: clip from matt dillahunty matt slick debate

Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 4:58 pm
by thatkidakayoungguy
I think Ray Comfort and his ilk can use this too. They generally have a bad rap outside the Evangelical community.

Re: clip from matt dillahunty matt slick debate

Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 5:16 pm
by RickD
thatkidakayoungguy wrote:I think Ray Comfort and his ilk can use this too. They generally have a bad rap outside the Evangelical community.
Ray comfort isn't well liked within the evangelical community.

Re: clip from matt dillahunty matt slick debate

Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 5:26 pm
by thatkidakayoungguy
RickD wrote:
thatkidakayoungguy wrote:I think Ray Comfort and his ilk can use this too. They generally have a bad rap outside the Evangelical community.
Ray comfort isn't well liked within the evangelical community.
Why is that?
Is it bc his apologetic techniques are bad?
He can still use this though.

Re: clip from matt dillahunty matt slick debate

Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 6:40 pm
by RickD
thatkidakayoungguy wrote:
RickD wrote:
thatkidakayoungguy wrote:I think Ray Comfort and his ilk can use this too. They generally have a bad rap outside the Evangelical community.
Ray comfort isn't well liked within the evangelical community.
Why is that?
Is it bc his apologetic techniques are bad?
He can still use this though.
Two things off the top of my head:
1) From what I've seen, Ray Comfort treats atheists, and others he speaks to, as the enemy, instead of treating them like someone who needs the love of Christ.

2) He preaches a false gospel.

Here's a thread from a while back, where some of this is discussed.

Re: clip from matt dillahunty matt slick debate

Posted: Tue May 23, 2017 9:41 am
by thatkidakayoungguy
RickD wrote:
thatkidakayoungguy wrote:
RickD wrote:
thatkidakayoungguy wrote:I think Ray Comfort and his ilk can use this too. They generally have a bad rap outside the Evangelical community.
Ray comfort isn't well liked within the evangelical community.
Why is that?
Is it bc his apologetic techniques are bad?
He can still use this though.
Two things off the top of my head:
1) From what I've seen, Ray Comfort treats atheists, and others he speaks to, as the enemy, instead of treating them like someone who needs the love of Christ.

2) He preaches a false gospel.

Here's a thread from a while back, where some of this is discussed.
oh I thought it was his ways of teaching about evolution vs strict creationism. My church sometimes watches his video "Evolution vs God" which I thought was alright even though I noticed he teaches a wrong view of evolution.

Re: clip from matt dillahunty matt slick debate

Posted: Wed May 24, 2017 1:41 am
by Kurieuo
Admittedly, I actually didn't mind Comfort's recent Atheist Delusion film. :shelp:

Re: clip from matt dillahunty matt slick debate

Posted: Wed May 24, 2017 3:05 pm
by thatkidakayoungguy
Kurieuo wrote:Admittedly, I actually didn't mind Comfort's recent Atheist Delusion film. :shelp:
If God's plans are perfect, why the point in prayer? That was basically what someone in the comments said.
I see so many logical fallacies in the comments section I actually am laughing.