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Limited Free Will
Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2017 12:46 am
by ultimate777
I have an idea that might be neither Biblical or Scientific. I just hope I can say what I mean:)
Maybe what we would each do under certain circumstances is foreordained,
but whether these circumstances ever occur is not.
An extreme example, a variation on something that happened on an episode of "Father Brown": Maybe it is foreordained if someone makes you mad a certain way, you will shove them without thinking if you can. It may never happen to you, but once it does. Someone makes you mad standing beside you at the top of the stairs, you shove them, they fall down the stairs and die. This leads to all sorts of unusual circumstances.
Re: Limited Free Will
Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2017 5:03 am
by PaulSacramento
Define free will.
Re: Limited Free Will
Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2017 10:24 am
by ultimate777
PaulSacramento wrote:Define free will.
Can't do any better than I have.
Re: Limited Free Will
Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2017 10:28 am
by ultimate777
ultimate777 wrote:PaulSacramento wrote:Define free will.
We decide what we do
Re: Limited Free Will
Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2017 11:44 am
by PaulSacramento
ultimate777 wrote:ultimate777 wrote:PaulSacramento wrote:Define free will.
We decide what we do
Well, if you decide what you do then how is it limited?
Re: Limited Free Will
Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2017 6:29 am
by BGoodForGoodSake
I am going to ask that you try a quick exercise.
Take a few moments to do this.
Close your eyes and relax.
At some point you will have a thought.
When you do ask yourself when did you decide to have this thought?
Re: Limited Free Will
Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2017 6:37 am
by RickD
BGoodForGoodSake wrote:I am going to ask that you try a quick exercise.
Take a few moments to do this.
Close your eyes and relax.
At some point you will have a thought.
When you do ask yourself when did you decide to have this thought?
Is that supposed to be an argument
against free will?
Re: Limited Free Will
Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2017 9:29 am
by Byblos
BGoodForGoodSake wrote:I am going to ask that you try a quick exercise.
Take a few moments to do this.
Close your eyes and relax.
At some point you will have a thought.
When you do ask yourself when did you decide to have this thought?
It's a question of the intellect informing the will (or vice versa).
Read this:
http://www.informationphilosopher.com/s ... rs/aquinas
Re: Limited Free Will
Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 6:52 pm
by ultimate777
PaulSacramento wrote:ultimate777 wrote:ultimate777 wrote:PaulSacramento wrote:Define free will.
We decide what we do
Well, if you decide what you do then how is it limited?
That's unlimited free will.
Limited free will is we will do x under y circumstance but y may or may not ever happen.