Evidence for God from Science

Philip wrote:
Note, in the film, the possessed woman has been "exorcized" eight times before - what does that tell you?

abelcainsbrother wrote: ↑Thu Apr 19, 2018 8:37 pm I have seen an actual exorcism and so I am not skeptical one-bit about them.Demon possession is real but is rare as most people are demon oppressed but not possessed.There is a difference between Demon possession and Demon oppression.

Although any Christian is capable of casting out demons I do believe that it is better to have knowledge of demon possession and even experience with dealing with it because demons are not always cast out despite the desire to.As demons have rank and there are weak demons and stronger demons to deal with.

Jesus even taught that prayer and fasting was needed for certian demons to be cast out as the disciples ran into problems one time trying to cast out demons and they could not because it was a more stronger type of demon.

I believe that Christians have different callings and gifts God/Holy Spirit gives them and so certian Christians are just better at certian things than other Christians are according to their gift/calling.This does not mean one is more powerful,etc than another one but just that we all have different gifts/callings as the body of Christ.

Philip wrote: ↑Fri Apr 20, 2018 4:53 am I'm merely noting a huge contradiction of Catholic teachings vs. what Scripture says about exorcism - and that the Catholic Church mumbo-jumbo ritual is a bunch of nonsense. All it does is further belief in the unnecessary need and supposed powers for priests specializing in exorcisms and their related Catholic Church rituals. And that exorcisms noted in scripture are simple commands done in faith in the power or Christ for the demonic to vacate their victim. It is quite possible that demons are using peoples' wrongfully placed faith in the effectiveness of those rituals to make it appear that they are successful, or even temporarily so. As all the demonic has to do is produce dramatic symptoms and manifestations of possession, act as if the ritual is working and torturing them, and then they complete the deception that the ritual has been effective by merely going quiet - making it appear that the ritual was effective, as opposed to simple faith in the great power of Christ to genuinely remove the demonic (which Scripture teaches in direct refutation of this faith placed in pointless ritual and dependency upon priests).

LittleHamster wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 1:57 am Hamster's Possession and Exorcism 101
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Q. How do people get possessed ?

A. By doing some new-age meditation, dabbling in the occult, taking lots of drugs, psychological trauma. These will definitely open up doorways and expose you to attack. Another way is when nasty people try and send you a curse or artificially created demon (negative elemental).

Q. What things attack ?

A. Three main attack vectors: (i) Negative elementals (thought forms) created either by yourself or by others. - these are what Jesus called 'deaf and dumb spirits' (ii) Elemental projections of Lucifer (the Shamaels) or simply 'demons'. (iii) Departed spirits of people or animals. (The real nasty one's are the Shamaels).

Q. Why do they attack ?

A. Law of attraction. Once the psychological doorway is open and you are 'vibrating' in a corrupt manner, elementals go straight in - instantaneously and attach themselves to you. Even if no psychological doorway is open, there is a very small chance you can still get possessed i.e., during sleep, etc.

Q. If i'm 'vibrating' in accordance with the Christ logos will I get attacked ?

A. No. But rarely are people vibrating in a non-corrupt manner.

Q. What actually happens if i'm vibrating in a similar manner to the Christ Logos and open a doorway to the other side, will I get possessed ?

A. If an attack is attempted, all demons, negative elementals, etc will either be too scared, refuse to attach to you (bounce off) or will not be attracted to you in the first place.

Q. How Does one protect themselves if they feel they are under attack ?

A. Two common methods (i) By prayer and covering oneself with the precious blood of Jesus Christ (ii) Advanced mystics use the six pointed star (star of david) during meditation (i.e. visualizing the star surrounding you). This is sometimes called the "Shield of Jesus".

Q. O.K., YOU GOT YOUR SELF POSSESSED. WHAT CAN YOU DO ?

A. Exorcism Time. At this point you're basically a goner. If you're possessed, you aren't thinking straight anymore, so your best bet is to seek help (i) Get someone else to take the thing off you and put it onto themselves and allow them to get rid of it. (ii) Find an advanced practitioner in mysticism with authority to remove it. (iii) Super Super Intense prayer - reading passages from the bible constantly. This takes an enormous amount of concentration and could go on for days, months or even years. (iv) Get a priest to pray for you. This can be hit and miss and depends upon the spiritual authority given to the priest.

Q. Does it matter if i'm 'under the law' or under Grace ?

A. No. But under Grace, you will be given assistance in getting help if you fall prey to this nastyness. If you are 'under the law', you are likely to end up in a mental asylum.

Stu wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 2:49 am

LittleHamster wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 1:57 am Hamster's Possession and Exorcism 101
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No offence but some of that sounds like new age/catholic mumbo jumbo.

neo-x wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 5:54 am Exorcism should be just prayer. What else can be done to repel evil.