"The heavens declare the glory of God; the skies proclaim the work of his hands." (Psalm 19:1)
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Ofc not, and that's the point of this thread.Philip wrote: ↑Mon Jul 02, 2018 7:37 am Is the criteria for going to Heaven how GOOD a person is? One of my friends, nicest guy you could ever meet - was once my roommate - he's an agnostic who is headed for hell unless He repents and embraces Jesus in faith. Did Robin Williams ever do this? I dunno - but if he never did...
I thought that universalism is a heresy, and embracing it would doom one. However, since there are death bed converts it's possible he changed his views.Philip wrote: ↑Sun Jul 01, 2018 7:55 pm Kid, hopefully you realize that Mr. Roger's present location has nothing to do with whether or not he embraced universalism - an obviously unBiblical belief. It has only to do with whether he embraced Christ in a sincere and committed faith. He certainly seemed to understand loving God and people - even though he may have not understood God's wrath, judgement, and that many will not inherit Heaven. A lot of saved people can't mentally and emotionally glue together a God of such unfathomable love with the narrow and only path to salvation (Jesus!) He insists upon.
Besides the above, the article is pathetic as it paints him with no more than random quotes without more context and without detailing whether his views may have evolved by the end of his life.
Universalism IS heresy! But do you not understand that whether or not Rogers changed his view of that has nothing whatsoever to do with whether he's in heaven? MANY universalists go to heaven (and more don't). The ONLY deathbed conversion that matters would be a person who submits to Christ in faith - as that is EVERYONE's ticket to Heaven! A person can be saved and yet have a lot of messed up theological beliefs! It's not a matter of having faith in Christ and also having correct theological beliefs. As there is NO "and" required beyond faith and belief in the Jesus of Scripture!ThatKid: I thought that universalism is a heresy, and embracing it would doom one. However, since there are death bed converts it's possible he changed his views.
what about false teachers?Philip wrote: ↑Mon Jul 02, 2018 9:15 amUniversalism IS heresy! But do you not understand that whether or not Rogers changed his view of that has nothing whatsoever to do with whether he's in heaven? MANY universalists go to heaven (and more don't). The ONLY deathbed conversion that matters would be a person who submits to Christ in faith - as that is EVERYONE's ticket to Heaven! A person can be saved and yet have a lot of messed up theological beliefs! It's not a matter of having faith in Christ and also having correct theological beliefs. As there is NO "and" required beyond faith and belief in the Jesus of Scripture!ThatKid: I thought that universalism is a heresy, and embracing it would doom one. However, since there are death bed converts it's possible he changed his views.
A saved false teacher is SAVED.ThatKid: what about false teachers?
I would think being a GOOD person is one of the criteria. Yes. Who deserves to go to heaven more? A grumpy miserable shut in who never did anything good for anyone but himself and made others feel bad - but believes in Jesus Christ has Lord loves God and prays all the time? Or a person who brought joy and happiness to everyone they met, helped allot of people with charity money, made a real positive physical and emotional impact on this world - but put God second in their lives.Philip wrote: ↑Mon Jul 02, 2018 7:37 am Is the criteria for going to Heaven how GOOD a person is? One of my friends, nicest guy you could ever meet - was once my roommate - he's an agnostic who is headed for hell unless He repents and embraces Jesus in faith. Did Robin Williams ever do this? I dunno - but if he never did...