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N.Y. adopts law allowing abortion up to nine months

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2019 11:34 am
by Stu
This is pure evil IMO and amounts to nothing but murder. Take that 9 month old baby out of the womb and it's murder, inside it's not. Makes zero sense. These people are evil.

Dobson: N.Y. adopts 'pure barbarism rarely seen since Middle Ages'

A new abortion law enacted by New York’s Democrat-led state legislature, signed into law Tuesday by Gov. Andrew Cuomo, for the first time permits abortion throughout all nine months of pregnancy, up to the very moment of birth, for almost any reason.

Conservative Christian author, radio broadcaster and leader of millions of families Dr. James Dobson is calling it “pure barbarism on a scale rarely seen since the Middle Ages.”

The new law permits abortions at any time, and for almost any reason, including mental-health reasons. To celebrate the new law, Cuomo ordered that landmarks like the spire of One World Trade Center be illuminated in pink.

The law also moves abortion violations from the state’s penal code to the health code.

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Re: N.Y. adopts law allowing abortion up to nine months

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2019 7:10 pm
by UsagiTsukino
It's very rare to get it up to that months.It's generally for health reasons.

https://www.newsday.com/news/region-sta ... 1.26286007

Only if the mother's health is at risk.

Re: N.Y. adopts law allowing abortion up to nine months

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2019 2:40 am
by Stu
It also allows for abortion for mental health issues, not just physical health issues.

Re: N.Y. adopts law allowing abortion up to nine months

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2019 6:48 am
by Byblos
UsagiTsukino wrote: Thu Jan 24, 2019 7:10 pm It's very rare to get it up to that months.It's generally for health reasons.

https://www.newsday.com/news/region-sta ... 1.26286007

Only if the mother's health is at risk.
And that's the smokescreen veiling this absolute evil, the question of who exactly determines the mother's 'health risk'. Considering the new law also allows for midwives and nurse practitioners to perform abortions including late-term, that decision no longer rests with physicians who have, in principle, been sworn to do no harm (not that there's a shortage of physicians willing and able to perform abortions). But for all intents and purposes this decision now rests solely with the woman herself. Aside form the grave ramifications for the unborn, it is an extremely heavy burden countless more women must grapple with for the rest of their lives. y[-o<

Re: N.Y. adopts law allowing abortion up to nine months

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2019 7:17 am
by Philip
Everyone shakes their head in sadness and incomprehensible disgust at the holocaust of the Jews - roughly estimated to be 6 million.

According to Wikipedia, the total military deaths for ALL U.S. wars combined equal 1,354,664 - that's a lot of people who gave the ultimate sacrifice.

But then, right under our noses, as everyone goes about their lives, in the ongoing holocaust that has mostly been accepted, whose available mechanism is widely celebrated, since the 1973 Roe vs. Wade and Supreme Court ruling allowing abortion on demand, approximately 60 MILLION CHILDREN have been slaughtered in the womb. That's TEN times the slaughter of Jews during WWII - and yet it's been perfectly legal and few get terribly upset about it.

Everyone, especially those who believe life is both God-given and extremely precious, should weep and continuously pray about this, for the carnage to end! And for healing to come for those who realize, weep and are haunted by what they did to God's Image within their aborted child.

Re: N.Y. adopts law allowing abortion up to nine months

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2019 7:52 am
by RickD
I was trying to do a little research before responding to this. What I can see from what I've read, this law leaves too much up in the air, with how the woman's "health" is defined.

Re: N.Y. adopts law allowing abortion up to nine months

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2019 8:41 am
by Byblos
RickD wrote: Fri Jan 25, 2019 7:52 am I was trying to do a little research before responding to this. What I can see from what I've read, this law leaves too much up in the air, with how the woman's "health" is defined.
Exactly. That was the intention. Allow for abortion at whim and mask it in the veil of health risks. I am ashamed Cuomo calls himself Catholic.

Re: N.Y. adopts law allowing abortion up to nine months

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2019 10:32 am
by RickD
Byblos wrote: Fri Jan 25, 2019 8:41 am
RickD wrote: Fri Jan 25, 2019 7:52 am I was trying to do a little research before responding to this. What I can see from what I've read, this law leaves too much up in the air, with how the woman's "health" is defined.
Exactly. That was the intention. Allow for abortion at whim and mask it in the veil of health risks. I am ashamed Cuomo calls himself Catholic.
Am I the only one who was extremely bothered when the video showed them all cheering, shaking hands, and hugging, when they found out the bill passed?

Re: N.Y. adopts law allowing abortion up to nine months

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2019 11:06 am
by Byblos
RickD wrote: Fri Jan 25, 2019 10:32 am
Byblos wrote: Fri Jan 25, 2019 8:41 am
RickD wrote: Fri Jan 25, 2019 7:52 am I was trying to do a little research before responding to this. What I can see from what I've read, this law leaves too much up in the air, with how the woman's "health" is defined.
Exactly. That was the intention. Allow for abortion at whim and mask it in the veil of health risks. I am ashamed Cuomo calls himself Catholic.
Am I the only one who was extremely bothered when the video showed them all cheering, shaking hands, and hugging, when they found out the bill passed?
You're not alone, both my wife and I were sick to our stomachs.

Re: N.Y. adopts law allowing abortion up to nine months

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2019 11:39 am
by Stu
Believe it or not but I heard that Israel under Netanyahu changed the law to allow abortions up to nine months! I'll try find out a bit more but if true then this is an utter disgrace. Full term abortion is utter madness.

I support Israel, but you have to take a stand when leaders like Netanyahu are in charge as I believe it was him that brought this to bear.

Re: N.Y. adopts law allowing abortion up to nine months

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2019 12:56 pm
by Philip
Stu: Full term abortion is utter madness.
With the end result being one kills a human being God meant to experience life on earth, does it truly matter a what stage growth the baby is? Think about all those arguments by the pro-child killers:

"The baby will be a burden; It takes constant care; can't feed itself; can't adequately communicate to convey what's wrong; Is basically helpless without assistance; Constantly costs lots of money for doctor visits and brings massive time inconveniences for their care; They aren't contributing to anything useful and are unnecessarily depriving me of time, money "

Now, apply all of that to one's elderly parent or grandparent, in which all of the above arguments could be applied to. So, based upon that sort of reasoning, grandpa's no longer anything but a money and time-wasting burden - so, "He's gotta go!" Even more so, "Grandpa's had a nice, long life, so..."

And that's the basic reasoning of the pro-abortion crowd!

Re: N.Y. adopts law allowing abortion up to nine months

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2019 5:14 pm
by Kurieuo
Gosnell movie is out. Nice to know NY is rolling out the red carpet for such.

Re: N.Y. adopts law allowing abortion up to nine months

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2019 5:22 pm
by RickD
Kurieuo wrote: Fri Jan 25, 2019 5:14 pm Gosnell movie is out. Nice to know NY is rolling out the red carpet for such.
This is what Dean Cain, who starred in the movie and was an executive producer as well, had to say.

https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/g ... nell-legal

Re: N.Y. adopts law allowing abortion up to nine months

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2019 9:33 pm
by UsagiTsukino
I hope no one hates me but I never think abortion should be ban. I say this since we see that banning it can just be has dangerous. Places in South America women have died due to not having abortions even for heath risk. So I would keep abortions legal for health risk.

Re: N.Y. adopts law allowing abortion up to nine months

Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2019 1:54 am
by Kurieuo
Because abortion is very safe when practiced by licensed practitioners like Gosnell.