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I bet Rick's wife can answer that one!Rick: The real question, is it Neanderthal or Neandertal.
The "African Neanderthal" or Rhodesia Man is considered to be the direct ancestor of all the races of today. Classical Neanderthal Man is more of a cousin human lineage. Some intermixing happened but not much but they too come from the Heidelberg Man and Rhodesia Man humans.Philip wrote: ↑Fri Jan 25, 2019 9:40 am
(Haha - note the early man-bun!)
Here's a series of position analyses concerning the Neanderthal data, as assessed by Reasons to Believe:
https://www.reasons.org/search-results? ... tal&mode=0
No! Neanderthals were one of many different races in the Pre-Adamite world.When that world perished nothing survived it and all life died until God restored the earth for this Adamite world and made this world we now live in.When these Pre-Adamite races were discovered it was like a fulfilled bible prophecy at the time,yet history has been altered because of evolution so that you think we only have one world going back 4.6 billion years instead of two different worlds with a gap between them. Even if you do research on Neanderthals there is no consensus on them,as a matter of fact it is not clear about why they even went extinct,as there are different theories as to why.Much speculation.Re-examine the evidence and instead of looking at it from an evolution perspective look at it from a two different kinds of worlds with a gap between them perspective,instead.Philip wrote: ↑Fri Jan 25, 2019 9:40 am
(Haha - note the early man-bun!)
Here's a series of position analyses concerning the Neanderthal data, as assessed by Reasons to Believe:
https://www.reasons.org/search-results? ... tal&mode=0
It makes no sense to look at thing from a gap perspective because both Scripture and science directly contradict the gap theory.abelcainsbrother wrote: ↑Fri Feb 01, 2019 7:58 pm No! Neanderthals were one of many different races in the Pre-Adamite world.When that world perished nothing survived it and all life died until God restored the earth for this Adamite world and made this world we now live in.When these Pre-Adamite races were discovered it was like a fulfilled bible prophecy at the time,yet history has been altered because of evolution so that you think we only have one world going back 4.6 billion years instead of two different worlds with a gap between them. Even if you do research on Neanderthals there is no consensus on them,as a matter of fact it is not clear about why they even went extinct,as there are different theories as to why.Much speculation.Re-examine the evidence and instead of looking at it from an evolution perspective look at it from a two different kinds of worlds with a gap between them perspective,instead.
Yes it is semantics...thatkidakayoungguy wrote: ↑Sat Feb 02, 2019 5:08 pm this boils to sematics: were neanderthals a variant of human or not? anatomically, genetically, n culturally they r a human. r they the same species or subspecies? no.
If there is a small amount of Neanderthal DNA in some humans of European descent, then there is only one way that I can think of that it got there. Evidently on rare occasions Humans and Neanderthals were able to mate and produce viable offspring. The small amount of DNA is evidence that viable Human/Neanderthal offspring would have been the exception rather than the rule, but there is some genetic evidence to indicate that it may have happened.
Now, I'm tracking with you on the likely timing. Yet, if a creature has human DNA, even intermingled - is it not human?DB: Now if my understanding of the timing of the Biblical Adam is correct, then any intermingling between Humans and Neanderthals took place tens of thousands of years before God breathed into the mouth of Adam and Adam became spiritually alive.
Genesis 2:7 lists two steps...Philip wrote: ↑Sat Feb 02, 2019 7:24 pmNow, I'm tracking with you on the likely timing. Yet, if a creature has human DNA, even intermingled - is it not human?DB: Now if my understanding of the timing of the Biblical Adam is correct, then any intermingling between Humans and Neanderthals took place tens of thousands of years before God breathed into the mouth of Adam and Adam became spiritually alive.
Other question, when you reference Adam becoming "spiritually alive" - are you asserting that he was already previously existing and then so spiritually imbued? I thought you accepted Adam - while not necessarily the first human (but the first of Christ's line) - that he was however instantly created from dust, and Eve from Adam's rib - in which neither of them existed before they were instantly created in God's image (and not previously existing hominids or evolved creatures)?
Paul makes a couple of points that are interesting to me...44 it is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body. If there is a natural body, there is also a spiritual body. 45 So also it is written, “The first man, Adam, became a living soul.” The last Adam became a life-giving spirit. 46 However, the spiritual is not first, but the natural; then the spiritual. 47 The first man is from the earth, earthy; the second man is from heaven. 48 As is the earthy, so also are those who are earthy; and as is the heavenly, so also are those who are heavenly. 49 Just as we have borne the image of the earthy, we will also bear the image of the heavenly.
