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Priest(ess?)
Posted: Tue May 10, 2005 4:19 pm
by AttentionKMartShoppers
Hey, I read some article about how the church is being archaic and such (Catholic Church and every one else, but I think the author bashed the Catholics the most) don't allow women to be priestess (well, the main theme was bashing religions because men are trying to dominate women and what not). And, I picked out that little part to muse over, and I remember clearing reading that women are not supposed to teach, and I think it applied to spiritual matters.
Anyways, my question is this-does the Bible allow women to be heads of churches or not?
Re: Priest(ess?)
Posted: Tue May 10, 2005 5:37 pm
by Mastermind
AttentionKMartShoppers wrote:Hey, I read some article about how the church is being archaic and such (Catholic Church and every one else, but I think the author bashed the Catholics the most) don't allow women to be priestess (well, the main theme was bashing religions because men are trying to dominate women and what not). And, I picked out that little part to muse over, and I remember clearing reading that women are not supposed to teach, and I think it applied to spiritual matters.
Anyways, my question is this-does the Bible allow women to be heads of churches or not?
That part that said women are not allowed to teach better not be the corinthian position Paul was rebuking, although I wouldn't put it past you to have it fly over your head.
Posted: Tue May 10, 2005 6:23 pm
by AttentionKMartShoppers
You dirty pompous son of a
Posted: Tue May 10, 2005 8:09 pm
by kateliz
It must be, but please refresh me on how writing it to the Corinthians totally negates it for everyone else.
Marty, hold your tongue!
Posted: Tue May 10, 2005 8:15 pm
by Mastermind
kateliz wrote:It must be, but please refresh me on how writing it to the Corinthians totally negates it for everyone else.
Marty, hold your tongue!
You're confused. Paul never said women can't teach. He said to let anybody who has something to say teach because God does not discriminate. (or something like that). It wouldn't make any sense otherwise since God had female prophets in the OT.
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Posted: Tue May 10, 2005 8:16 pm
by AttentionKMartShoppers
Posted: Tue May 10, 2005 8:17 pm
by Mastermind
Get me the verses otherwise his opinion is worthless.
Posted: Tue May 10, 2005 8:21 pm
by AttentionKMartShoppers
Mastermind wrote:Get me the verses otherwise his opinion is worthless.
Hypocrite, where are YOUR verses?
Posted: Tue May 10, 2005 8:24 pm
by Mastermind
AttentionKMartShoppers wrote:Mastermind wrote:Get me the verses otherwise his opinion is worthless.
Hypocrite, where are YOUR verses?
Why do I need verses? He has to show verses that say women are not allowed to teach. I can't provide verses that say you CAN do something and don't have to simply because we're not limited to doing only what's in the bible. If that was true, good bye shower.
Posted: Fri May 13, 2005 1:47 am
by JBirdAngel
corinthians was mentioned, and if memory serves that is correct, in corinthians it refers to women not teaching, however, like all verses in the Bible you have to understand the context, who its being said to, and why, and what is meant and so on.
This was not meant to be addressed to all women, this specifically concered corinth in that specific place and time.
there were many false prophets at the time, and women, under the old jewish laws were not even allowed to learn, newly learning things they were far more succeptable to false prophets, the men however were able to learn the whole time, so were less succeptable
the women were told to learn and not teach at this time because of there succeptability to false prophets and to spreading that message, the thought is that Paul meant that until the women were more founded in their faith they should just learn, so that they dont accidentally spread false phrophets information and such... this is just me calling from my memory of the information in one of my study Bibles, if you want me to find it id be more then glad to if this doesnt satisfy 
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Women and Men are equal, women and men were created to need each other, to be one flesh, not one above the other, men and women are different to be sure, but equal, its no different then the fact that i am equal to another man, but he could play football way better than i could, and perhaps i can type faster than him, we are different but equal... no reason to not listen to a female who is spreading the word of God and doing his will we are all the children of God equally, yes we need to help so that people can find the truth and not be lead astray, but the holy spirit is a gift to us all and guides us all to the truth, different truths for different people i think, none of us can know all the truth, i dont think any of us can know the Truth about anything, but we can get closer about somethings then we can about other things... in this day and age it is very hard to not get mislead with so much going on... and im out of things to say heh heh
Posted: Fri May 13, 2005 10:34 pm
by kateliz
Thank you Angel for answering my question on context and for whom the verses on not teaching were meant for! I still feel the need to do my own further research, but you have greatly contributed, and provided me with something concrete for the mean time!